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2011 Circulating Commemorative 20c Coins

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 Posted 03/17/2016  09:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone have any idea which parts of Australia these coins were sent to?

Everyone on this forum seems to think that the Royal Wedding and International Women's Day coins are much easier to find in circulation than the Volunteers coin, but I've found the exact opposite while noodling coins in Brisbane, and I'm beginning to wonder why this is.

So far, I've received 5 batches of coins from the bank, all of which were at least 2 days apart, and the Volunteers coin has shown up in almost every batch, whereas the Royal Wedding and International Women's Day coins haven't shown up at all.

Does anyone have any idea what's going on here? How is it possible to noodle through $240 worth of 20c coins, obtained on five separate days, and not find either of these coins, when I have 3+ of all the other recent commemoratives (from 2003 onwards)? Did Brisbane simply not receive these coins, or are they being hoarded en masse?

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03/17/2016 09:26 am
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 Posted 03/17/2016  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt that either of these are being hoarded especially the "Teeth" coin
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 Posted 03/17/2016  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I found some back when they were first released. I know I have as many as I need of each of them.

I am in Brisbane.
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 Posted 03/17/2016  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think in general, many commemorative coins are somewhat plentiful when they are first released. After a few months, they literally disappear from circulation. When they return back to circulation, it's usually people who think they have something that's worth more than face value only to find out that isn't the case and just casually spend it.

From my experience, commemorative 20 cents are just hard to find. Indeed I did find a fair number of WWII 20 cents but otherwise, the rest are actually hard to find. Even for the UN 20 cents - it took me a good 5+ years to patiently hunt one down!
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with GX. Hoarding and unequal distribution is the answer.
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 Posted 03/19/2016  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info. I just found 2x International Women's Day coins during tonight's noodle, which is really exciting because that's the only circulating 20c coin I was missing.

Now, I have a complete set of circulating Australian 20c coins, if you exclude the mythical 1983-1988 releases.

I was going to post a full range of stats on this website tomorrow, but I just discovered a discrepancy in the mintage for the 2010 release, so I'm going to have to investigate this first.

According to the mint's website, the 2010 Platypus release had a mintage of only 32.1 million, whereas the annual reports give it a mintage of 59.9 million. Does anyone have any idea which of these is correct?

My own noodling stats seem to support the annual reports, but I'm curious to know what other people think.
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I just checked the 3 Annual Reports that contain stats for the 2010 Regular 20c:

2009-2010: 0.120
2010-2011: 32.002
2011-2012: 27.775

Total: 59.897

When checking the RAM Annual Reports, it's important that you check all the years around the date you're researching, as sometimes the data can be spread over 3 - 4 annual reports.



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 Posted 03/20/2016  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When checking the RAM Annual Reports, it's important that you check all the years around the date you're researching, as sometimes the data can be spread over 3 - 4 annual reports.


I already know this, but I got the mintage directly from the RAM's website, using this link: https://www.ramint.gov.au/twenty-cent , and the figure published there is incorrect.

They've based their figure on the 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 annual reports, while excluding the 2011-2012 one, which accounts for almost half the total mintage.

Now, I'm going to have to go through all the annual reports and work out the mintages manually, because I cannot trust the information on the RAM's website.

On a more positive note, I just discovered a rotated 2001 20c coin in the batch of coins I was noodling last night, and since this is the first rotated coin I have ever found, I'm quite impressed by it.
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 Posted 03/20/2016  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hercules to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And just in case the mint deletes the evidence, which I sure hope they do, here's a screenshot of it:

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Now, I can't help wondering just how many other mintages are wrong.
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03/20/2016 09:23 am
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 Posted 04/11/2016  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pedro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately Hercules the RAM site mintages do contain the odd error or two. Probably why quite a few collectors keep their own records!

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I was given 4 Donald Bradman 20 cents, and I found a 100years of federation, a taxation office centenary, and a sir Henry Parkes in my spare change
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