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United States Mint Obtains Possession Of 1974 D Aluminum Cent

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US Mint - Washington, DC - The United States Mint announced today that it has recovered a 1974-D aluminum experimental one-cent specimen that was neither authorized to be struck nor authorized to leave the Mint. The Mint's recovery follows an agreement to resolve a lawsuit over the ownership of the piece.

The lawsuit in question involved an aluminum one-cent specimen that had once been in the apparent possession of a former assistant superintendent at the United States Mint in Denver, Colo. The two plaintiffs, an heir of the former assistant superintendent and a California coin dealer, filed suit in federal District Court in San Diego, California, seeking a declaratory judgment that the piece was legal to own.

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Over 1.4 million of the experimental pieces were struck at the Mint in Philadelphia in 1974 as part of a test program to possibly replace copper one-cent coins. However, Congress never enacted legislation authorizing the Mint to issue one-cent coins composed of aluminum, and the test pieces were to all be melted. The specimen piece in question bears a "D" mark, signifying production in Denver, along with the date "1974," and appears to have been struck with a die intended for the Mint's Denver facility. However, authority was never granted for production of the experimental test pieces at Denver.

An heir of the now-deceased former assistant superintendent contended that his father was given the aluminum one-cent specimen as a gift upon his retirement. The heir provided the piece to an auction firm and hoped to sell it. In February 2014, the United States Mint became aware of plans to offer this particular piece for auction, and immediately reached out to the plaintiffs, notifying both that the United States Mint never issued, nor otherwise transferred title to any aluminum one-cent piece, and that indeed, lawful authority to issue them was never granted. Congress never divested the Government's interest in the subject aluminum one-cent piece, and accordingly, it remained the rightful property of the Federal government.

The Mint, upon authorization of the Secretary of the Treasury and as delegated by Congress, has the exclusive authority to mint and issue U.S. coins and other numismatic items. Items made at United States Mint facilities but not lawfully issued--or otherwise lawfully disposed of--remain government property and are not souvenirs that Mint officials can remove and pass down to their heirs.

The agreement directs that title to the piece rests with the United States Mint and that it be transferred to its custody and control. Mint Police have secured the piece. The Mint considers the specimen to be a valuable historic heritage asset. Accordingly, it intends to display the specimen publicly so that this heritage asset can be properly showcased and enjoyed by numismatists, coin collectors and the general public. The display forum has not yet been decided, but the Mint will make an announcement when a decision has been made.

"The Mint is very pleased with the agreement, and we are very grateful to the U.S. Attorney's Office in San Diego for its work and efforts in reaching this resolution. We look forward to displaying the coin appropriately as an important Mint heritage asset," said Rhett Jeppson, United States Mint Principal Deputy Director. "This agreement is not only good for the integrity of the coin collecting hobby but for the integrity of the government property and rule of law."
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Thanks for sharing! What a cool looking cent!
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Hopefully this finally solves the question as to whether or not 1974-D aluminum cents were minted.


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Accordingly, it intends to display the specimen publicly so that this heritage asset can be properly showcased and enjoyed by numismatists,


I'd enjoy viewing it ... alas ... the Smithsonian National coin collection is very disappointing when viewed in person.

Truly doubt we will ever get to view this coin ... now acknowledged by the government as authentic.

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I wonder how much the other party received in exchange for walking away from the legal battle over this coin.
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It is just as well that Aluminum coins were not issued. They wear poorly and are quite unattractive when worn, often corroding.

Mind you, in UNC they are quite nice.
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I'm glad we got it back.
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The Mint considers the specimen to be a valuable historic heritage asset.

An odd opinion considering they never authorized it's creation and have no records of it ever being officially made. I just see it as something a mint employee made on his own initiative using government equipment (Like the 1913 V nickels. Frankly this establishes the precedent that would allow them to confiscate those as well.)
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Like the 1913 V nickels. Frankly this establishes the precedent that would allow them to confiscate those as well.
I was thinking the same. Could be interesting times ahead.
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I don't like the ruling in this case. Released or not, 40 years had passed and from what I understand it wasn't stolen but he asked if he could have it and was given permission to take it. Now the president is set and it encourages people that if they ever find things like this in the future to keep their mouths shut.
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from what I understand it wasn't stolen but he asked if he could have it and was given permission to take it

That was the Toven Specimen, the coin retrieved by a Capitol police officer after a Congressman had dropped it. The Toven specimen, along with the other 1.6 million, were struck at Philadelphia while this coin was somehow struck at Denver- it was not part of the test mintage and should not exist.
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Read about the Toven Specimen.
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Released or not, 40 years had passed and from what I understand it wasn't stolen but he asked if he could have it and was given permission to take it.

If you mean the Toven specimen of the 1974 Al cent, the problem was he was told he could have it by someone who didn't own it and had no right to give it to him. If I told you that you could have my neighbors car does that mean you can keep it because I told you you could have it?

If you mean the 1974 D Al cent, the problem comes from the fact that it was created using government property without authorizatio or permission. That is conversion of government property and the result belongs to the government. So once again it is something that can't just be given to you because the person giving it doesn't own it. Also in the stories as they first unfolded the coin was created by the relative of the person that wanted to sell it, he wasn't given it. He was the one converting the government property.
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If I told you that you could have my neighbors car does that mean you can keep it because I told you you could have it?


Ummm yes... that's exactly how the Europeans got all their land in North America... Precedent set. And what's the statute of limitations on every other stolen penny the year it was minted?
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Granted I was thinking about the wrong coin, but still isn't there evidence that 1913 V nickels were never minted, and yet 5 existed, all owned by someone very close to the mint?
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