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Valued Member
United States
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An 1887 VAM 1B... E Clash Rev. dollar sold in Jan 2008 for $3500.00 in EF40. See price info at Vamworld. Believed to be a private sale. Tough coin. Gusp
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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gusp, SSSSSHHHHHHHHH! Don't let that out! Now everyone will be VAM'ing! I see countless VAMs everyday on ebay ... got an R7 in the scope as we speak and have picked up about 15 since the first of the year. None are close to this value, but someday I'll snag one. If folks knew what the potential for profit was on these, they'd get hooked too. One of our members snagged an 1887-P VAM 1a Donkey Tail recently ... an AU version sold on VAMquest last year for $1000 in AU. 
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Valued Member
 United States
288 Posts |
15 yrs ago when I picked up my VAM 1b no one cared. Could buy them for common money. Go figure and keep on picking. In time people will understand. Varieties just add to interest and potential value. Wow R7 VAM..Hot pickup. Good for you. Post it if ya can. Check out my 1917 Mangy Buffalo just posted. G
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I picked up a 1921 S VAM 1L for $15.00 on ebay. I cant find a price history for it on Vamworld. There are only 6-7 known to exist. It's an R-6 rarity. I also picked up a 1921 VAM 27A for about $18.00 just about two weeks ago. Both coins are in AU condition. All I do is cherry pick Morgans, and I love every minute of it. 
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 United States
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quote: I picked up a 1921 S VAM 1L for $15.00 on ebay. I cant find a price history for it on Vamworld.
That's a really neat VAM - nothing else like it exists in the Morgan series. It's not getting the attention it deserves at the moment. I cherrypicked the second one known, on ebay, while the thread bragging about the "unique" first was still active over at PCGS. That ticked him off a little. At one point in 2006, there were only three, and I had two of them. They're pictured below. The first pic is the 2nd known, which I only got $70-ish for at auction. The second two pics are my other example, still in the collection. Note the huge double in front of Liberty's nose - Machine Doubling, I imagine. Does yours have it?   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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SuperDave, I checked mine for doubling in the nose and didn't find any. I did notice some doubling in her mouth though. I also noticed yours has the same smudge behind the eagles right wing tip as mine. You need to check out this coin and see if you know what's going on with the spots. I've been waiting for you to come around. https://goccf.com/t/25666Here are pics of my 1921 S VAM 1L   
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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ARRRRGGGGHHHH!!      Did I mention I was tracking an R-7 on ebay as we speak. That auction was to end this morning. I checked it last night and couldn't find it in my "watch" list. Checked the ended list and there it was. I clicked on it and it ended with a "Buy it Now". The listing did not have a "Buy it now" when I viewed it on Thursday night. Here's the rest of the story ... the listing was for an 1878 8TF (looked XF-AU) with a start bid of $49.95 and no bids. I didn't want to bid to attract attention (a mistake in hindsight). This one sure looked like one of the "ultra-rare" 8TF VAMs ... 14.8 to be specific. I couldn't make out all the diagnostics from the pictures, but that eye spike was unmistakeable if you looked closely. I think someone else saw this too and contacted the seller with an offer. Since there were no bids, the seller could add a "buy it now" and let this person have it this way. Here's the link to the completed auction ... what do the rest of you VAM'ers think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WA:IT&ih=014
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SeatedNut, that one looks close enough to the attribution that I'd have pulled the trigger on it myself. It's a definite  coin. The buyer sure looks like an 1878 specialist, judging from feedback. NGiles, I dunnno how I missed your thread - the term "1921" usually jumps out at me.  Let me do some looking and thinking, and I'll post there later.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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SeatedNut,
I think the seller may have made a mistake, I'm sure there are people out there that would have paid more than $75 for that coin. His loss I guess.
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quote: I think the seller may have made a mistake, I'm sure there are people out there that would have paid more than $75 for that coin. His loss I guess.
A 14.8 in that grade is probably a $500 coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I sent the seller a question: quote: Dear notrux0,
I didn't notice a "Buy it Now" button on this auction on Thursday. Did you add that later? Thanks
I'll let you know what they said. I'll also tell them the implications of their action.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was searching for the clashed E today, no luck as of yet. The shop I frequent does not usually check for VAM's , I think they only look for the grey sheet listed overdates and OMM's, makes for some nice pickings for me ! The Donkey Tail is still my best grab, but I figure it's just a matter of time till I get my 1878 VAM 44, and the 1878 VAM 9....right . As long as silver stays high the common dates flood in ! I did manage to get a couple infrequent reeding 21's I will post later, and a friend that also frequents the shop saved me a 1887 over 6 he spotted in the circ box. Great place that shop !
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't know how I missed that unless I haven't been spending quite enough time on ebay as I thought I had, since my wreck my computer time has been limited but I have to agree with your attribution on this one and would have been a fine addition to any VAM collection. Now I just want to know where all these 1878 specialists are coming from, a year ago it was me and one other guy (from PCGS forum) duking it out over all the 1878 VAM's and no one else seemed to be interested at all in them (lucky for me he is kinda cheap) and I got a few nicens but now it has gotten so crazy I can't even afford to play anymore, EF pieces are selling for what graded unattributed MS-63 coins did a year ago. I saw a common long nock raw sell for what a graded MS-64 unattributed used to sell for and in my opinion it would have a tough time getting 64 at PCGS or NGC. But as far as VAM's go there are still plenty out there because not everyone knows what a VAM even is, I remember when I first heard the word VAM and I came here asking for answers on some of my coins (come to find out I had some pretty nice ones already and didn't know it) so some people just see a Morgan dollar graded a specific grade and thats it where others see something quite different in that piece of plastic and it seems more people with the money to play the VAM game are studying up on what VAM's are actually collectible and which ones may become in the future. I wish I still had all of my 1878 VAM's I used to have now because I could sell them for 3 times the amount I sold them for on todays market with all these 1878 VAMers coming out of the woodwork
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bryan, quote: with all these 1878 VAMers coming out of the woodwork
Hey, I resemble that remark. I contacted the seller and he said that with no activity on the auction he put in a "BIN". I informed him about the VAM 14.8 and estimated value. I also said that I was waiting for the bidding war at auction close. Man I bet he crapped his drawers. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As promised ... here's the exchange: Me quote: I didn't notice a "Buy it Now" button on this auction on Thursday. Did you add that later? Thanks
Mike quote: Yes, with no activity on coin I added BIN. Thanks for looking Mike
Me quote: Mike, I wish you would have waited it out. Your coin was an ultra-rare VAM 14.8 and was worth at between $500~$1000. I was waiting for the bidding war on Saturday morning. The eye spike was the giveaway. Sorry man. The buyer is an 1878 VAM expert who I've battled with in the past. Check her feedback for other 1878 purchases.
Mike quote: This has happened before, I don't check many of my morgans for VAMs, I let that up to the bidders. This happens when you play the sniper game--you snooze you lose. I do this as a hobby and since I made a small profit, I am happy with sale. Mike
Read into it whatever you like. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I definately wasn't pointing any fingers but you have to admit some of these people have more money than they have sense (and I aint talking about change in the pocket either). I guess all thats left for me to do is sit back and wait for them all to run out of money or find another forte'
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