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United Kingdom
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Edited by Gazt2011
04/21/2016 11:43 am
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United States
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I don't have one of these for a comparison, but yours is not looking good to me. The 'K' in 'Kong' is broken, and the detail of the Queen's head is poor. The letter impressions are varied, seems to be inconsistently struck.
I could be wrong, of course, but I'd get it expertised and inform the vendor that you are doing just that.
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United States
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The obverse details look like they have lost a lot of relief. That is a sign of a counterfeit.
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Australia
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Even without looking closely at the details, the luster matches known counterfeit examples. They appear to be too bright white whereas genuine examples are more greyish. This is getting very uncommon and if genuine, is a four figure coin in this condition. If you bought this from ebay for around 30 -50 USD or less - the seller had the deal. |
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They appear to be too bright white whereas genuine examples are more greyish.  For BU examples, I would expect bright white luster for silver coins. For circulated coins, I would expect a greyer hue. Or I could be wrong if the metallurgical alloy is different, making the silver have a greyer appearance. |
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United States
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The coin is a numismatic forgery - recently made. The details are terrible - the sharpness that should be present is simply NOT there. The lettering of the Queen's name is enough to prove the forgery. Look at the picture below:  Compare the top and bottom of the letter I's. Looks closely at the leg of the R especially the tip. Look at the upward serif of the C - that is horrible. Then just check the jewels in the Queen's crown. You can do the comparison easily by checking the Heritage Auction site for a genuine example. The forgery is a transferred image. This one may be struck on a closed collar press and it may be silver but it is NOT GENUINE. Edited by swamperbob
04/22/2016 12:01 am
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United States
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The word KONG is perhaps even better to show the nature of the coin as bogus.  |
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Australia
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Typecoin - it's definitely different alloy. Even in freshly struck silver coin, it may appear "whitish". But if you compare it to freshly struck palladium and platinum, they all have different color. Palladium appears to look more dull like stainless steel color, silver being in the middle and platinum being the brightest out of all. This of course is different if they are struck in proof condition.
In my opinion, this is struck on a nickel alloy content. I honestly doubt if it's even stuck in silver for starters. Of course, it could be the camera where it may not really reflect the true color. However if you have seen so many counterfeits of similar color, contrast and details, they just stand out. And this also will stand out with other countries' coinage once you get the hang of it.
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Having read the subsequent posts on this, I'm retracting my advice to have the coin expertised, that has already been done right here. Go straight to the vendor and demand a refund in full.
Don't feel badly about this, we all get 'taken' now and then.
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The reeded edge was made very well but what I don't like your coin Gazt is the denticles. It should be equally strong and evenly spaced for the real. I also think your coin was not made by 90% silver so the weight should not be correct. I post my coin for you to see. It is real. 27.00grams, 38.8mm   |
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Australia
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Like bees to a honeypot:
very attactive target for Chinese fakers.
Every HK Dollar should be checked, both before and after purchase, when it is in your own hands.
Texture of surface looks a little 'iffy', but not conclusive in itself.
Need to superimpose photographs of known genuine coins against this coin to be examined.
Slight difference in alloys may affect a compararive ring tone test.
Edited by sel_69l
04/24/2016 06:16 am
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