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5.7 Billion Canadian Pennies Scrapped

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From RCM's 2015 Annual Report - page 22/23

"The mint anticipated removing six billion pennies from circulation within three years of its phaseout from Canada's coinage system in February 2013. As of December 31, 2015, 5.7 billion pennies have been recovered. The scrap metals were recovered from the coins and the proceeds delivered to the Government of Canada."
http://www.mint.ca/store/dyn/PDFs/2...AL-May-4.pdf
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2 questions -- so are all Canada nickel based coins destroyed too ?

with the end result of all coins being steel plated being in circulation ?

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I've only searched 300,000 since the small cent was dicontinued. Based on what I've found I can't even imagine what has been melted out of a population of 5,700,000,000. They are still out there but to keep coin roll hunting I'm thinking increased creativity will be required.
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questions -- so are all Canada nickel based coins destroyed too ?

with the end result of all coins being steel plated being in circulation ?


Yes, that's my understanding. In about 2003 the Cdn Govt announced what's called an Alloy Recovery Program (ARP) to accomplish that.

A couple references:

"Historically, Canadian circulation coins had been manufactured using expensive alloys such as copper and nickel that are actively traded on the commodities market and therefore subject to volatile price fluctuations and supply pressures. Since 2000, the Canadian circulation 5, 10, and 25-cent denominations have been produced with multi-ply plated steel materials saving the Canadian Government over $340 millon since the transition."
https://www.mint.ca/store/dyn/PDFs/...ummary-E.PDF

"The volume of coins recovered through the RCM's recycling program continues to increase. This has assisted the revenue from the Alloy Recovery Program (ARP) to continue to increase; the tonnage in nickel and copper recovered was driven primarily by the launch of the program to recover the first generation one-dollar and two-dollar coins as they are replaced with the new coins."
https://www.mint.ca/store/dyn/PDFs/...ummary-E.PDF

I think the "first generation" loonies and toonies refers to anything prior to 2012.
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An interesting article on the US penny, so Canada can't be much different:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...er-180959032
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I've only searched 300,000 since the small cent was dicontinued. Based on what I've found I can't even imagine what has been melted out of a population of 5,700,000,000. They are still out there but to keep coin roll hunting I'm thinking increased creativity will be required.


Only 300,000?! But look at the plus side -- there's now 5,700,000,000 fewer for you to search.
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Handing a roll of pennies back to the bank must feel like going to a funeral home!
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They ain't gettin' mine!
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Handing a roll of pennies back to the bank must feel like going to a funeral home!


I suppose it's along the lines of "one man's trash is another man's treasure." LOL! Not too long ago I happily handed a couple of $25 bags over. Their time had come after being set aside in a piggy bank for almost 20 years. Grungy, dirty and yuck were my thoughts as I searched through them.

It reminded me of the past and the feeling of absolute delight in being given a couple of glimmering, bright red copper pennies in change. But even back then it always seemed to me that the well circulated, corroded ones were deserving of burial, so no mourning about it by me.
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They're not getting MINE!!

After I finish searching my 40L Rubbermaid pail of them, they will be used in a wood working project. A touch of glaze and they will make the new counter top to a desk that will go in my office.
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They're not getting mine either!

That is, since I live where I do they've got nowhere to go
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An interesting article on the US penny, so Canada can't be much different:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...er-180959032
Good article, okiecoiner.

Too bad most Americans cannot be bothered with the facts.

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I go through anywhere's from 2 to 5 bank boxes per month, removing, keeping only noncirc, errors and varieties as well as all KG and prior, I've tried to pass them on for even face on Kijiji with no luck. It seems so far the breakdown has been about 70% pre96. Even at those odds it's hard to get rid of them other than the bank. The bank my daughter works at, they just keep coming in. I thought there would be more interest in people wanting to retain the scrap value of them. I understand they are still an acceptable currency but it seems even ones that melt won't touch them. Am I missing something here or perhaps I'm not in touch with the right buyers of such. ? I would truly prefer not to bring them back to the bank.
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One thing to consider if your reluctance to take them to the bank is the "teller pain" issue. If you are a customer at TD, they have many branches with coin counting machines where you can painlessly deposit them to your account without fees. I take all my surplus cents to them.

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As for copper scrap value, when the penny was first announced to be discontinued I think the idea of saving them for melt was popular at the time because the price of copper was much higher.

5.7-Billion-Canadian-Pennies-Scrapped
http://www.infomine.com/investment/...pper/5-year/
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