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I have a 1863 bronze Indian Head centit weighs 4.8 grams proofs weigh 4.67 is this the one of one hundred coins that were stamped as a test plate? and does anybody have any more or information about it   Edited by indianhead1863
05/22/2016 5:52 pm
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First it is not bronze but Copper nickel. Check your Red Book or some of the excellent online resources. Bronze Indians start in 1864. Thinner and a totally different look. |
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 We are one of the excellent online resources. I see you're new, so don't mind my friend of few words. You've probably figured out what the Red Book is by now and ordered one from Amazon. The "Indian Head" or "Liberty with Feathers" pattern started in 1859 (one of my favorite dates) and from then until 1864 were made of 88% copper and 12% nickel. In 1864 the bronze version also made its debut and as far as I know, that is how it was through its end in 1909. Welcome to CCF! Stick around and you'll learn loads.! Edited by Biedercoins
05/22/2016 07:55 am
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thank you so very much this coin has been with my family for 100 years if you go to coin fact .com you will find the story about one hundred bronze 1863 penny were struck with some examples sent to salmon p chase the treasury secretary on dec. 8 nearly all proof in 1863 were already run from different dies.the coin have has mint pulls ,the I in america has pull mark the a in america is solid the 8 is unpolished but most of all the coin is 4.8 grams theps weight and circumference is what the mint goes bye. ok so ive seen this coin one other time with all marks weight and they said its the rarest Indian cent ever made been tryin to find these people again. still looking for answers thank you. |
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Can you post some pics of it ? I would love to see it.
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Looks like a normal 1863 to me.
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I am confused at what you're suggesting.
A bronze cent would be lighter than a copper-nickel one. You are demonstrating that this one is heavier than your should be.
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05/22/2016 7:53 pm
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The 1863 bronze patterns sent to Chase weighed very close to 48 grains or 3.1 grams. What you have is a normal coppernickel cent that is a hair overweight but still well within tolerance (4.67 grams +/- .27 grams or 4.4 to 4.94 grams)
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They appear to be the thickness of a Nickel, thus heavier in weight.
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so your saying its a proof.so bronze is lighter yes that would account for the extra thickness thank you. .does anybody know were to find mint pulls and weights of these coins and has any of the 100 been posted before or seen by anyone on this site before?
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Since you asked, here is my bronze 1863 Indian cent. Most of the pattern cents tend to be in pristine condition, as they were given to very important people to try to 'sell' the pattern. Only a few entered circulation.   |
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 that is awesome. |
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And to the original poster, I think you misunderstood. Your coin does NOT appear to be a proof, and is definitely not bronze. It appears to be a regular business strike 1863 copper nickel cent. I am not sure what mint "pulls" are, but the proper weight for any US coins can be found on this site under the US coin facts tab |
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so your saying its a proof No, everyone is trying to tell you that you have a perfectly normal cupronickel cent minted for circulation. Quote:
does anybody know were to find mint pulls and weights of these coins and has any of the 100 been posted before or seen by anyone on this site before? "Mint pull" is not a recognized numismatic term, you have to be more specific. The weight has been posted in this thread and is readily available on this site and many others- 1859-1864 cupronickel cents weigh 4.67 grams. The 100 mintage number you keep quoting only applies to bronze trial strikes, something you do not possess. Your coin had a mintage of almost 50 million. Edited by biokemist6
05/24/2016 1:21 pm
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