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Baby steps...

Sending a photocopy of the page out of the 67th Charlton edition probably helped. Cost-wise, including shipping, this cost me CAN$30, which included the Secure grading service and photograph.

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Probably helped? Is that a polite way of saying without pictures they couldn't find a Canadian variety with a map and a flashlight?

I have to like "Population - 1" and the price/cost. Good work.
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Very nice. Is that the actual coin? I'm having a hard time seeing the crack ... that's the reverse beads?

On closer inspection, I think I can see it.
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PCGS photography is designed to highlight the devices and cartwheel effect of the fields. Elements like doubling or in this case, die cracks, are not highlighted very well. When I get the coin back, I'll take close up photos of the beads.


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Is that a polite way of saying without pictures they couldn't find a Canadian variety with a map and a flashlight


Considering that this is a relatively unpopular series and varieties have really only been chased since I did the 67th Edition catalogue... I am really pleased that they are willing to do varieties now, at a price comparable to CCCS hard slabs. I did not send down the catalogue page for the pictures, but to document that this was a bone fide variety that has been documented with a Charlton Number. You can send all the pictures you want, but to acknowledge the variety, they will want to see a catalogue reference to it.
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All kidding aside, if they have to be provided the catalogue information, how much do they really know about the variety at issue? This is a company representing themselves to be experts selling a professional opinion on grade and authenticity. If they are authenticating something they know little or nothing about, does not that bring into question the validity of their services?

Nothing here is meant to be a knock on your coin or variety.
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That is why PCGS has a guarantee on what they slab
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Baby steps...

Sending a photocopy of the page out of the 67th Charlton edition probably helped. Cost-wise, including shipping, this cost me CAN$30, which included the Secure grading service and photograph.


Thanks SPP..great to know.

Never knew that you could get PCGS hard slabbing + their photos + shipping..for ~ $30../coin.

As you know, I have a lot that has to get down to them.

example 1..I have an 1858 BS large cent ...(broken stem)

example 2..I have an 1858 FV large cent ...(full vine)

example 3..I have an 1949 50 cent with the Hoof Over 9 variety..

I don't see any catalogue listing #(unless you mean the year and page of the Charlton).. but the pages and specific info are there and in the front of all recent Charlton catalogues..

What extra steps will I need besides the pages showing here..?

Should I run most by Sandy before I send coins down..?

Thanks...





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I know I'm going against the grain here, but I've always had trouble with a particular deteriorated state of a particular die being labeled as a "variety". I can sort of understand obvious stuff like all the hoof in dates in the George VI 50 cents, but an essentially invisible die crack between beads... seems to be pushing the "variety" concept. Sure, I can understand the desire to document all these microscopic discrepancies between coins, but getting something like this recognized as a distinct "variety" kind of makes me shake my head a little. Maybe if I could actually see it I'd have a different opinion?
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Reading Rob's books helps a lot.

All is well explained in his extensive research and just another aspect of the hobby..
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