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I think it's good, but you better wait on a pro.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It looks very close. It is a bit later die state than the CC example. Just wish the gunk was removed. We might see some die markers better and the inside of the '4' on the date.
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I got most of the grime off the date and took a close-up of the 4   |
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It isn't an exact match though to 005:   Edited by coop
07/20/2016 11:07 pm
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Lawest, your looks more like the one on Coppercoins than it does the normal one. (An amateurs opinion)
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coop - could the circulation dings on the date make it a bit different?
Unless I'm seeing things, I could swear on the obverse and reverse the other markers are present seemingly identical to CC 1DO-005 example. Thanks, Doug.
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You study those pics, Coop is right. They are slightly different. I bet it is a different die DDO. Also remember, the markers don't prove anything, the proof is in the pudding. |
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I was able to remove some gunk from around the WE. I see the differences in the devices Coop has pointed out but the markers look like a match here. Is it possible to have markers like this but it be a different die?   |
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That is what I wanted to see. The markers are a match. There are enough of a confirmation on that one image to be a perfect match. So as I was afraid of is that between the two coins, the coin damage/die wear may have altered the two from looking the same. But the last pair of images confirm that it is from that die. (sometimes answers don't always come easy. having matching markers like die scratches, I try to match three. the last images show more than necessary proof)
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lawest, I was working on a follow up response to point out the PUP's or markers to others, but you beat me to it.  Thanks, Doug. Edited by Halo1st
07/22/2016 1:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Having the coin in hand often shows the finder these little anomalies that we can't see in images. Sometimes having the light at the right angle will show more to the collector than what we see in an image.
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Thanks! I was hoping the markers would confirm it. I appreciate all of the time members spend on CCF to help others out! I found a couple of 1909 V.D.B.s in this batch that are really cool, I'll post them hopefully sometime this weekend. One looks like a DDO-2 and the other has a nice obverse Cud |
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Actually more than you benefited by this thread. It was a learning experience. On that many will remember.
A lesson on having the coins devices touched up so we could see what is there.
A lesson on how coin circulation damage can alter the devices by contact with other coins altering some devices.
A lesson on learning not to just to conclusions, but on reliable facts in this case die markers. If your coin was a mint marked cent the problem would have been a lot easier because we could have compared mint mark locations to see if they match.
But you coin I s a later die state than the coppercoins one. How do I know? The die chip on the bottom of the bust edge. It was there when the CC example was struck, but now it is there and will get larger as more an more coins are struck until the die is retired.
So it wasn't a waste of time or effort. Now you know for sure!
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The things that caught my eye was actually all points listed on CC. The class 6 DDO, then moved onto the die scratches on top on the bust and the one(s) between the bust and the rim. The reverse die chip lined up. The die scratches around the C in cent was more of a challenge to see as coop said the lighting was at different angles and zoomed in a bit closer so harder to pick up on. Thanks, Doug. edit: to fix typos. Sorry if I edit so much, but I tend to have dyslexic symptoms written in my DNA. Edited by Halo1st
07/22/2016 9:55 pm
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lawest,what do you use to get such good close ups?
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Posted 07/19/2016 12:55 am
