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1832 Half Cent Back From ANACS

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Another coin posting for opinions.

1832 Half Cent

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After getting this coin back, I had to take a really good look to see what damage ANACS was seeing. What I came up with,
there looks to be some (small) hits in the area of "LIBERTY"
Was hard for me to get a good detail pic, here is what I have.


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That dark line from Liberty's ear down to her neck seems to mark a fairly deep groove. Is that some kind of gouge in the surface, or just an illusion caused by the dark streak? Other than that I see various small hits that aren't too severe. The discolored spots by the reverse rim at 7:00 and below RI are minor defects but again don't seem bad enough to constitute damage.

The details grade looks OK. Color seems basically natural.
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IMHO, this coin did not deserve a details grade. It's an attractive, XF copper that I honestly don't think warrants, value-wise, the expense of certification. It would look far better in a 7070 type set or copper cabinet than in a slab. I can well understand the need to slab rare coppers, but this one?

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That dark line from Liberty's ear down to her neck seems to mark a fairly deep groove. Is that some kind of gouge in the surface, or just an illusion caused by the dark streak?


Under 7X glass it does not look like that dark streak is anything
type of gouge or scratch. Just a dark stain.

There is a scratch from rim to bust. The hit in "Liberty" takes
out the bottom of the "B". And right above "ER" the small
gouge does go into the coin.

Maybe ANACS have been getting a lot of complaints, from buyers,
that they were not acknowledging imperfections in the coins
they had been grading.

I guess it is good to have as true of a grade as possible.
If I ever listed this coin on ebay, and described the small damage,
then a buyer should be aware of what they are getting.

In my class of collecting, this is a good hole filler.
In hand it is has good eye appeal and a coin with a lot of
detail.
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IMHO, this coin did not deserve a details grade. It's an attractive, XF copper that I honestly don't think warrants, value-wise, the expense of certification. It would look far better in a 7070 type set or copper cabinet than in a slab. I can well understand the need to slab rare coppers, but this one?


Exoguy - I guess we were typing at the same time .. I am just
a little slower.

Part of the reason I like ANACS is the low cost of having coins
graded. Because of the low cost I think the coins in these
slabs are good candidates for future buyers to purchase and
then break them out for their albums.

This coin cost me $11.00 total to be graded. A small cost to
have a expert opinion. In my experience coins like this sell
better on ebay in a slab, than raw coins.
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Another very attractive coin that I never would have guessed would be called damaged. I had been thinking of sending some coins to ANACS, but after seeing the results you got, I'm having second thoughts.... Especially considering your issue with the 1878 Morgan.
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ANACS seems to "details " grade most every coin submitted
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Unfortunately all the little things added up to borderline details grade. I find ANACS is very conservative on grading, especially on the grading specials for $10 per coin. I don't think I ever got an over graded coin from them, and am usually disappointed with their results. Like you say though, you'll get your $11 back just for having it in a slab. I've sent Unc Morgans to them in the past on the "special," and they seem to average a point undergraded imo.
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The 2 prominent obverse cuts merit a details grade, imo. I'm no fan of ANACS, but I think they called this one right.
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Nice Half Cent. NGC and PCGS using market grading might grade this one problem free...and maybe not. Either way I think ANACS it graded fairly, although strictly. ANACS may give it a details grade but anyone who buys the coin and not the holder should plainly see an attractive early Half Cent:)

Personally I like net grading. My EAC grade would be net - VF, damage above Liberties headband, scratch under bust, and small rim ding under date. Overall nice surfaces other than mentioned areas and discoloration on bust. Nice tan / brown toning.


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It is a beautiful coin and I agree the specials are good deals
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It is a beautiful coin and I agree the specials are good deals


I still think so too ...

I have 8 more off getting graded .. hope to get them back next week.
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I've seen worse in problem free PCGS slabs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1867-S-PCGS...AOSw-FZXj2SB
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The straight scratch down from the bust to the left of the date is a problem. That one looks deep, and on a coin like this, which otherwise grades EF-AU, it's significant.

So far as dark streaks go, if they on the surface and not gouges INTO the coin, they are really normal occurances for some of these coins.

I think that ANACS got the grade right on this one.
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Well it's really quite obvious, someone changed the 1832 date to 1829.
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Thanks Conder101 .....

Seems like one of us would have noticed I put the wrong date in
the title .... Before six weeks passed.
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