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I have a strange question that may need to be answered. I've been reading about the Accented Hair (AH) 1964 Kennedy Proofs and realized they have the scattered rays on the reverse with the straight G. I happened to come across one that has this same scattered rays on the reverse with the straight "G" but without the AH obverse (Hair and missing serif in "I"). I looked it up and its called a transitional type 1 reverse. So what it says. Question: Do these come in business strikes because the one I have is a uncirculated 1964 P Kennedy? I will show several photos of the reverse of both Denver and Philly. I'm no photographer but I attempted to angle the photos to get the scattered rays, with the straight "G" and mintmark together. They are optimized and still in their original packaging. Here are the Philly:    Here are the Denver:    |
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I have found a few straight G's myself on proofs. Pretty sure they can be seen on buisness strikes. I like the variety and think it pretty cool
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I've only read about them on proofs and seen the photos. However on the business strikes I only read about people finding them but never showing photos. It's my only 1964 mint set and it was interesting to find it.
It was a "Eureka" moment.
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It was a Eureka moment when I found mine too. There is a guy on here who knows a lot about this variety. I'm almost positive it can be found on the buisness strikes
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Atrox001, I've looked at that site but it only shows PRoof grades and MS grades for Denver with (Straight G). There are some for the MS 1964 P but only with the flared G. I'm no expert so I can be wrong. I just didn't see any 1964 P Kennedy with the straight G. Perhaps I'm reading them wrong.
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Look again, it shows; DMR-004 BS reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G)
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Variety Vista:
1964-D DDO-002
Designation: 2-O-II-C
Description: Medium spread on WE TRUST, date, designer's initials, TY of LIBERTY, and light on IN GOD
Grade: MS64
Population: 7
Markers: Master Die / Master Die UVC-042 DMR-004
Stage A: EDS (unconfirmed)
Stage B: Obverse is MDS Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G) - MDS Die scratch from upper F of HALF to D of DOLLAR
Stage C: LDS (unconfirmed)
Reported by: Delma K. Romines
Edited by coop
08/08/2016 08:41 am
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I must have been looking at these lists the wrong way. That's why you're the experts and I'm the novice. Thank you so much.
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This shows the Obverse and Reverse die varieties for the 1964 proofs, and business strikes (P, D, PR) from the CONECA Master Listings.
1964 MDO-001 Designation: MD-PR-1-O-II-C; FS-50-1964-401
Description: Light spread on IN GOD WE TRUST and date
Grade: PR65
Population: 1
Markers: ODV-001 (Accented hair)
Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state
UVC-001 DMR-001 Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G)
Reported by: James Wiles
1964 MDO-002 Designation: MD-2-O-II-C (P, D, PR)
Description: Light spread on WE TRUST, 64 of date, TY of LIBERTY, and hair under R of LIBERTY
Grade: PR65
Population: 4
Markers: ODV-002 (Normal hair)
Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state
UVC-002 DMR-002 PR Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G)
UVC-003 DMR-003 PR Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G)
UVC-004 DMR-004 BS Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G)
UVC-005 DMR-005 BS Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G)
Reported by: John A. Wexler
1964-D MDO-002 Designation: MD-2-O-II-C (P, D, PR)
Description: Light spread on WE TRUST, 64 of date, TY of LIBERTY, and hair under R of LIBERTY
Grade: MS65
Population:
Markers: ODV-002 (Normal hair)
Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state
UVC-039 DMR-001 Reverse is RDV-001 (Straight G)
UVC-040 DMR-002 Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G)
Reported by: John A. Wexler
Larry Nienaber
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Can I jump in here and resurrect this thread? I have 7 or 8 dozen 1964 and 64-D business struck Kennedy half dollars. All are flared G's except two, one 64 and one 64-D. These two are straight G's. Question: are these straight G's significant or rare? |
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This is a marker for an obverse proof die. So it would need to be on a variety coin in order to mean something. The variety being the accented hair. On the business strike coins, it would mean nothing. Just a certain die used on business strike coins. Markers on mean something to a certain variety coin. Variety Vista link for Kennedy reverses: http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kenned...arieties.htmEdited by coop
04/20/2018 3:12 pm
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I have 17 of the 1964 D Kennedy halves with the transitional reverse with the Straight "G" and broken rays. They are worth their silver content. A shame. I truly think the Philly mint accidentally sent the wrong dies to Denver and minted with them. The mint, I do not believe, will ever acknowledge the mistake. Edited by Jim0815
04/20/2018 11:24 am
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