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Elymais Phraates Ae Drachm

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Seeing how everyone liked my last coin, here is another one for your enjoyment.

AE Drachm
Elymais
Phraates
2nd century AD
King facing left wearing a Tiara with pellet and crescent, Anchor on right. The reverse is just dash lines.
15mm x 3.2g
Reference: van't Haaf 14.7

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Good to see another Elymaean in your stable, Ron. To narrow the reference down just a bit tighter: van't Haaff 14.7.2-1.

Only two Elymaean rulers issued coins with portraits in profile, wearing tiaras: Phraates and Orodes III. Both issued drachms with a number of different types of reverses, including patterns of dashes like this one. So, to distinguish between a tiara-type with dashes drachm of Phraates versus Orodes III, one must look carefully at the symbol on the tiara. On Phraates' tiara there is an upward facing crescent (like a bowl) with a pellet inside. Despite the wear here, we can see that detail. Appearing on the tiara of Orodes III is the downward curve of an anchor, a small version of the Elymaean anchor that appears behind the kings' busts on these issues.
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Thanks Bob, I was hoping you would verify the reference. With no legends on these coins I was wondering how to tell the difference between rulers. As you know I'm just starting to learn about this interesting series. I appreciate all the help you ca give me in this area.
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Cool coin, nice profile portrait and good to learn some more.
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Ron, another great coin!

Ron and Bob, here is a stupid question: is there any indication if the rev dashes should be running North-South or East-West? I generally see them pictured vertically, but am wondering if that is simply owner preference, convention, or there is some actual reasoning...
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...any indication if the rev dashes should be running North-South or East-West?


Good question. It seems to be arbitrary...sometimes one way, sometimes the other. You'll note above that I gave Ron a van't Haaff reference of 14.7.2-1. What I did not mention is that if the dashes are running north/south in relation to the obverse (in other words, 12:00), then it is a 14.7.2-1.c. If east/west, then 14.7.2-1.b. Not knowing the orientation of Ron's reverse image, I didn't offer up that final lower case letter. Point is, the orientation varies, apparently in an arbitrary way.
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ok awesome thanks!
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I didn't know how to figure the orientation on the dashes, looks like the angle is 1h. 1h.
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