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1881 S Morgan Dollar - Holy Reverse!

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Tough decision at $28

Appears to be original toning but wanted the experts thoughts, any VAM and grading opinions would be welcome as well!

1881-S-Morgan-Dollar---Holy-Reverse!

1881-S-Morgan-Dollar---Holy-Reverse!

1881-S-Morgan-Dollar---Holy-Reverse!

1881-S-Morgan-Dollar---Holy-Reverse!
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 Posted 08/10/2016  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For $28 ... It would be a interesting coin to have.
I would buy it.

Not sure if it would be natural to artificial toning.
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 Posted 08/10/2016  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very pretty coin I'm at MS-64 for this one. Reverse toning seems natural and rather spectacular.
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UNC details AT
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I would think MS-63.
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AT.
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Looks uncirculated MS63-64 range, but looks dipped and stripped and retoned to me.

So I have to agree with the UNC Details grade.
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I truly respect all of your opinions here but was wondering why the AT thoughts or is it one of those which just looks too good to be true? I purchased it from someone who does not deal in coins so they would have bought it for the silver content only.

The cartwheel luster on the obverse is spectacular, so it doesn't scream dipped to me.

Thanks!
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MS-61, far too many marks. Toning looks original in the first two photos, second two the lighting enhances the colors making it look AT.
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When I looked at the coin, I was trying to figure out how it was toned. The toning is not from mint bags, not typical album toning, not wood grain toning, not envelope toning, not end roll paper toning, so how did the coin get toned? The lip stick red from the photo looks on top of the surface and unnatural.
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The fact that it is uniform from fields to devices make be think AT. A naturally toned coin will have different shades as the elevation of the design changes.
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Agree 61, not sure about the toning, though I lean toward AT.
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I'll stick with 64 and naturally toned. The luster is absolutely booming on both sides and it seems the reverse toned over a long period of time which be unusual for AT. Would also be unusual for an AT coin to be darkly toned only on one side.
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MS 62 details / AT - obverse has a LOT of scuffing
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unc. Details

Looks like AT
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MS-62. Spotty is usually a bad sign for toning.
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