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Break Out Morgans From PCGS And NGC Holders To Place In My Albums

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 Posted 08/26/2016  07:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rvales to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a MS63 and above Morgan dollar collection. They are in 2 deluxe albums. I also have a few in PCGS and NGC holders. I am thinking of breaking them out to fill some holes in my collection. I am reaching out for some opinions.
1. Is this something that has been done by fellow collectors?
or
2. do most do the opposite?
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 Posted 08/26/2016  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You wouldn't be the first.
Opinions on slabbed coins and how to present them is a recurring theme here.

I am pro-slab because I do Registry Sets and that requires either PCGS or NGC slabs.
At the moment I only own 4 unslabbed coins.
One I'm trying to sell and the other 3 are on their way to PCGS as we speak.

So how do I do a "dog and pony" show?
I image all the coins, put them in a Registry Set and then post the link.

Oops, just remembered.
I also have a full set of MS silver Roosies in an Intercept Shield album.
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If they are common date and 64 or under go for it. Most 65 and above should be left alone as well as ones where authenticity is questionable or is in a high value grade with one grade lower dropping price significantly etc. The common stuff can and honestly should be freed. You do know about the hammer and towel method correct? Its the best way to crack a slab
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The only instance I would recommend not cracking is key and semi-key dates if you plan on selling someday. Common dates can be cracked without regret but do save the labels and place them on the inside cover.
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I've done it, but I would just buy another MS63 in the appropriate date and put that in the album. Cascade is giving you good advice just above. Don't crack out anything MS64 or better, the value difference in a potential re-grade that drops a point is too great. Remember, when it's time to sell, your raw coins will instantly become MS63 or MS64 instead of MS65 and MS67.

Another consideration may be, get rid of the album and those empty holes that drive you batty and slab the entire collection. You can get a slab album, if you like.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldephriam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
FREE THE TPG'S!

Crack 'em you won't regret it. It is the most satisfying feeling you will have. I cracked my first slab not long ago and I will do it again. I do have some coins I am keeping in their plastic prisons but I look forward to my next chance to crack that plastic.

Use the hammer and towel method to crack a NGC slab. A pair of nippers placed just right on the very edge of a PCGS slab will do the trick.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RickV to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight on the opinions is crack them out. That is what I am going to do. I am wondering if a Dremel rotary tool would be safer than cracking the case. Not sure how to do the hammer and towel method or nipper method. Is this something I can find on You tube?
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 Posted 08/26/2016  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wrap the slab in a thin towel place the slab edge down on concrete and gently but not too gently hit the top edge with a hammer while holding the slab upright between thumb and 2 fingers at center over coin. Rotate and do all 4 edges and it should safely split in half then take the coin and insert our and pop coin out of insert on the towel. VERY simple and best method for ALL slabs. Try it on a lower value coin first and you'll see. Its the best method out there for the home cracker
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I went through the same issue about three years ago with my Morgan collection in Whitman albums when I got into the better and key dates. I buy almost all my coins online and I was not willing to purchase any raw coin over $300 online and I did not want to crack out any coin over $300 as the coin would lose value on resale. I ended up converting the entire set to slabs. I sent about 40 Morgan's to NGC under economy grading. I sold about 10 raw coins on ebay that were not worth getting graded. It was a valuable lesson in both selling coins and getting coins graded. There is no right or wrong answer to your question about cracking out coins for your album. It gets down to how you want to collect and your risk tolerance.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjartist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently made the decision to go with an album for my type collection, which is a mix of raw and graded, and I have to say it is very satisfying. Slabs offer better security, but there's something to being able to actually see the coin and hold it. That said, there are still a bunch of slabbed coins in my collection I'm going to keep as is.

Just be careful when cracking them open, take your time.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I paid $2000 for a coin in a slab I would not crack it out. I have cracked out most of my Morgans so far and I have over 80. I have a couple of GSA Morgans and I am not cracking them out. I have a few LSQ's in slabs and I won't crack them out because I paid too much for them and if I ever sell them I don't want big discussion about grade.
I probably will sell my coins one day, or my wife, or brother will so I keep the expensive coins in slabs and the more common ones can go into my album books. If I bought a 1916-d Mercury dime in EF condition in a slab there is no way I am going to crack it out and same goes for the 1916 LSQ. If you buy a rare/expensive coin that has been graded unless you think it has been undergraded why would you crack it out to expose it to humidity and all the other variables. When I buy online everything I buy is slabbed because I cannot believe what sellers say or what photos show to my eye.
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Is it an especially valuable coin? Is it a very high grade where a point or two would make a huge difference in value? For me, if the answer was yes to either I wouldn't crack it out. Otherwise why not?
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I have not yet, but I will not hesitate to crack a slab to fill an album hole. However, these would be circulated coins. I am reluctant to crack something that is higher grade so I would just avoid them.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RickV to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are valued at about $250 - $300 nothing more.
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Image cracked out a number of coins for my collection. I do have my limits though - rare coins, > $1000 or highly counterfeited coins I would probably leave in the slab.
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Keep the slab, put its photo in the hole in the album.

When you sell, you will be happy, or at least you heirs.
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