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A package containing this just arrived  http://www.ebay.com/itm/15221477833...RK:MEBIDX:ITI ended up getting 9 AU/MS 1909 vdb pennies. I will be posting various coins from the lot in in this thead for grading and evaluation. 1909 vdb #8:   *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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nice pickups.  Since you will be looking for grades, I moved this thread to the grading section. |
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United States
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A crisper, straight-on picture might change my mind, but from what I see, I'd say VF-35. Great buy!  |
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Here are some photos taken in natual light.   |
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United States
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There seems to be little wear on this coin but the color, to me, is way off. Also the fingerprint on the reverse is very distracting. I do not know much about this but I have to ask, has this coin been cleaned?
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There seems to be little wear on this coin but the color, to me, is way off. Also the fingerprint on the reverse is very distracting. I do not know much about this but I have to ask, has this coin been cleaned? Regaurdless of whether coin is cleaned or not what is the details grade? ----------------------- Here is 1909 vdb #8 WOODIE with "strawberry banana" toning and reverse die crack   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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EF-40, Hate those fingerprints.  |
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How can a coin with original minint luster only get a extra fine grade?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree. At least AU-58, possibly MS-61 or so (likely BN), with some spotting.
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09/07/2016 4:42 pm
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Not bad for the price. The 1909 VDB's probably cover your price, plus a few other odds and ends.
Ironically, this guy lives close to Cleveland.
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That is a somewhat better picture of the first coin, although it is still difficult to discern some features from that angle. But its grade looks better in the natural light. I'd say AU-50 now, maybe AU-53. It's not clear to me how the coin could be considered UNcirculated. If it was never in circulation, where did all the 'stuff' (for lack of a better word) on the coin's surface come from? In addition, mint luster does not make a coin MS-60 or above. Quote:" About Uncirculated (AU-50). Has traces of light wear on many of the high points. At least half of the Mint luster is still present." https://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mi...tion=grading Quote:"The numerical grades MS-60 through MS-70, used to denote a business strike coin that never has been in circulation." http://www.PCGS.com/grades Quote:" AU-55 (Choice) - OBVERSE: Only a trace of wear shows on the highest point of the jaw. REVERSE: A trace of wear shows on the tops of the wheat stalks. SURFACE: Much of the mint luster is still present." (Bressett & Bowers, p. 95). Reference: Bressett, K. & Bowers, Q. D. (Eds.) (2006). The official numismatic association grading standards of United States coins. Atlanta, GA: Whitman. Edited by dd27
09/07/2016 8:24 pm
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It's not clear to me how the coin could be considered UNcirculated. If it was never in circulation, where did all the 'stuff' (for lack of a better word) on the coin's surface come from? The coin is over 100 years old. It's been passed though many hands and improperly stored. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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I agree with badthad.
MS62BN for me for all 1909 vdb. Nice pick up.
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It's been passed though many hands... So is it not, by definition, a circulated coin? I'm not trying to be  I simply want to understand the (seeming) discrepancy between The Official Numismatic Association Grading Standards of United States Coins and what some of you are saying. Are you all using a different Grading Standard? Thanks! Mark Edited by dd27
09/09/2016 12:34 am
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So is it not, by definition a circulated coin? Well, in my opinion if it has rub and fingerprints on the coin it's been circulated and even though it has 'some' mint luster it is not mint state, just my opinion. |
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Posted 09/07/2016 02:45 am
