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I recently came across a term in a token guide, "engrailed". I don't remember seeing the term before. I haven't found a true definition, just that there are reeded, engrailed, motto, herringbone etc... What is the difference between a reeded edge and an engrailed edge? Or is there a difference?
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Not sure if there is a technical definition, but I have seen it applied to both slanted reeding, and slanted reeding in a central groove (like the George III milled pennies and half pennies).
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Good question and I'm not sure there is a precise definition. On Conder tokens you can have plain in collar, plain not in collar, lettered, reeded |||||||, diagonally reeded left \\\\\\\, diagonally reeded right //////, I don't recall a herring bone but I would imagine it would be somethling like >>>>>>. Engrailed if I recall looked something like }}}}}}}} but "stretched" a little more, not so "vertical".
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The bottom of the page shows an engrailed edge...http://www.cwtoken.com/Civil_War_To...lossary.html
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Interesting. The engrailed edge looks like what I would expect to see on some sort of metal adjustment wheel.
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Superb site you referenced. Thanks.
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Wow, that's not what I pictured for the term. Looks like a ratchet handle.

Thanks for the help!
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It is exactly what you will find on many tools. It is worth watching a Machinist turn a piece and apply the knurling tool. Sometimes the knurler doesn't line up with the starting point after the first turn, and you get an overlap or interference. This can also happen when making the collar die, and the result is overlapped reeding.
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Looks like a ratchet handle.
Ah! That was what else I was trying to imagine. All I could picture were knobs on an old lantern or something like that, but knew there was something more familiar about the look.
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Yes looks like engrail and knurl are synonyms.
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or engrailed as on CT 600B-1b (which might more properly be called knurled)

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So, what would we call this?
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That may be what Condor101 was talking about.
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If I understand it correctly, the "engrailed" from that Civil War link is basically what the edge looks like on a lot of 18th century Russian copper.

Numista refers to this edge as "reticulated". I;ve never heard of "engrailed" or "knurled" before.
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fished? I don't know what its called I only know that it is cool.
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Superb site you referenced. Thanks.

Oh you're welcome ! Just happened to stumble across it.
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