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Could This Be An Impaired Proof? 1909 VDB LC

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 Posted 09/21/2016  9:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Thedeathtouch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sharp thick rims, raised, sandblast surface... I need input. I made an old thread that is now uneditable so I needed to make a new one.

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 Posted 09/21/2016  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rims are nowhere near square enough for a matte proof IMO. The coin looks AU+ so rounded rims wouldn't be possible.
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 Posted 09/21/2016  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GREAT Lincoln!

Check the outer rim. Outer edges should be squared off as well.

Do an internet search for "1909 VDB matte proof diagnostics" - some great info out there.
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 Posted 09/22/2016  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that some MD on the date?
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 Posted 09/22/2016  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin but not a proof.
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 Posted 09/22/2016  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Nice coin but not a proof.

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Not a matte proof, many 1909's have nice, square rims and frosty fields since the hubs and dies were fresh.
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 Posted 09/22/2016  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct!
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Square rims and frosty fields on one of mine:



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Nada. Looks like an AU-58 business strike
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Definitely not a proof. A handsome coin, nonetheless.
If you find MPLs exciting, Kevin Flynn's Lincoln Cent Matte Proofs is a book worth owning.

@BadThad.. you wouldn't happen to have more pics of that fine cent, now, would you?
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 Posted 09/24/2016  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mamastinky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@BadThad.. I am a novice when it comes to matte proofs. I have learned much from studying photos and die markers. I have never actually seen one, however, so, there's that. Given that this example coin is raw, how did you figure out that it's a MPL?
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It is NOT an MPL, it is a business strike example of square rims and frosted fields.
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 Posted 09/25/2016  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mamastinky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ooooooh, that makes much more sense! I kept looking over it to figure out if it was the photos somehow or what..

My brain was glitching over it: Thad knows what a dang proof Lincoln is... but that's not a proof... but there is no way he wouldn't know it... but how could...

like that.
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