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1955 DDO: Looking For Opinions

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 Posted 09/25/2016  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joecontois to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok guys, I took several pictures, albeit with a finicky phone. I didn't notice the verdigris until I took these pics so hopefully the pics are good enough. They're the best I have for now.

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 Posted 09/25/2016  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joecontois to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, I think I see a faint dot in the location of your picture. I see it on the two pictures of the left side of the reverse. You?
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 Posted 09/25/2016  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joecontois to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If a moderator sees this post, can you please delete the second part of my title post about showing off? I don't know why I wrote that! I'd be happy with '1955 DDO: Opinions?'
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There is something there. Hard to tell if it is actually a die dot but it looks like it is in the right place. Would a counterfeit have the dot ?
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 Posted 09/25/2016  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No because coop said it was a marker he noticed, but I'm not sure if he publicized it
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 Posted 09/25/2016  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joecontois to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was a good article. I like what I see.
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I was doing some more study on the reverse markers for the 1955P-1DO-001 to see if anything stood out as markers. So I pulled up 9 different examples, recorded the information and realized, that the die scratches are not a good marker for this die. They are so fine and light and disappear even between a short span of striking. I was setting them in order in 3 steps per die state and that wasn't even enough to keep track of them. So the best die marker I found was on the LDS/VLDS examples were the die dot near the left stem just below the wheat grains. Another marker I found more consistent was the die gouge near the rim area at 4:00 below the right wheat stem/grains area. The north south die scratches only appear on the late/mid die state and disappear on the LDS die state. Other than those two, I didn't find anything else that was a marker for the EDS or EMDS/MDS coins. (I didn't find any) They were all LMDS-VLDS coins. So I gave up when the images were all exhausted. I only found one with anything like an intersection of an 'X' on the die scratches. So looking for that marker was totally useless.
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This was the only one I found close to that. (the source I used was the PCGS we site)
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 Posted 09/26/2016  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joecontois to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So Coop, did you form an opinion on my coin?
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I formed an opinion - I see a nice AU-55-AU-58 authentic 1955 DDO that should be slabbed without a doubt. Maybe acetone would be good on the reverse tho, idk.
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 Posted 09/26/2016  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joecontois to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice CoinHuntingDrew, thank you very much for your opinion!!
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A lot closer shots are needed. But because it has been in the family a very long time, I suspect it is original. I'm still working on created some close ups yet of what my search of several 1955P-1DO-001 coins from images on line. The reverse markers, are hard to determine because a lot of the die scratches are so light, the disappear soon. (even in the same die state, they go away) But there are a couple of markers that seem to be stronger. On is just on the LDS and later die states. The other is a die gouge that was fading with continued die use. The biggest problem is that out of the 75 I checked, they were pretty much the same die states. The die scratches didn't remain long on them. So give me a little time and I'll work on it soon. If it gets to the bottom of the page, type bump and post that until I get this done.
At 4:00 there is a die gouge on the rim that lasts a lot longer than die scratches:
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Left stem area. Die dot and die scratches:
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Ok cool, thanks.
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I'm not sure counterfeiting 1955 DDOs started then, so I think it is genuine.
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Take a closeup picture of the bottom part of the left wheat leaf on the reverse. This could help determine
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