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 Posted 10/12/2016  7:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joeysanders627 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been on this site for a few weeks now and I love it. There is so much useful information on here that it has made me into a more informed coin buyer. Also, there are numerous people on here who have guided me in the right direction when it comes to coin buying. Thank you to all of you.

I have read a lot of the policies and rules set forth by the administrators of this site. I agree with all of the rules and policies so far aside from one. I was surfing through the site and noticed there was a post about the moderators relaxing the rules concerning the posting of coins which had nude images on them:

http://goccf.com/t/188475

Why does there even have to be a rule about this?

Nobody, in this day and age of the internet cares if a coin has a graphic nude image on it. If people want an outlet to find adult material on the net, there are a ton of free adult websites for that purpose. They are not going to come on this site for that reason.

Amazingly, no one is looking at Playboy for that reason anymore either. The magazine has stopped publishing nude images of women in their magazine recently. They cannot compete with the internet either. Now when people say they are reading Playboy for the articles, we can actually believe them.

Also, understand that this is not pornography. It is beautifully crafted art. When my elementary school classes went to the museums of New York, we saw sculptures and paintings which contained nudity. We handled it pretty well. I'm sure us coin collectors can handle it too.

That is the only policy I have disagreed with so far. I would like to ask the forum members if there is some policy they would like to see amended? Also, are there any additional things that can be done to this site to make it better?
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 Posted 10/12/2016  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahhh, I think they have things pretty much covered
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 Posted 10/12/2016  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If we allow the extremely explicit ones.... You can explain to the literally thousands of kids' parents why they're there after we assured them, in person while giving their kids bags of free coins, they wouldn't be. I'll forward all the inquiries to you. What's your phone number so I can give it out to the angry parents whose 9 year old just asked them what that person is doing to that other person?

Also, this will not turn into a random policy bashing topic as you have tried to incite.
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 Posted 10/12/2016  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would like to ask the forum members if there is some policy they would like to see amended? Also, are there any additional things that can be done to this site to make it better?


No and No.
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 Posted 10/12/2016  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honest question ... well answered I believed.

We are a family friendly forum ... and as such hold each other accountable for standards of internet behavior that far exceed any other on-line coin forum.

I have personally sent many "Note to Staff" about written behavior that I personally believed went out of bounds ... and none of them included coins/medals/objects displaying nudity.

This is a place where your 8 year old child should be able to freely search for coin information ... and as such we hold each other to high standards of family friendly conduct.

David
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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 Posted 10/12/2016  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have the need to see random images of nude Men/Women then Thankfully this will never be the site for that
There is a plethora of that in just about any google search But none will be found on this site.
I am far from being a "Prude" But this is a coin forum and it is a family friendly one at that, I have absolutely NO qualms about letting my granddaughter look at anything on this forum when she visits because I know for a certainty that there won't be any "inappropriate" content found here.
I think that I would Much prefer that the forum remained that way
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 Posted 10/12/2016  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just because modern ideas change does not mean the nature of man does.

Kids need to be allowed the time in their lives to simply be kids. Whether something is labeled as art or not, there is no dire necessity for kids to lose their innocence b/c they were on a coin forum.

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 Posted 10/12/2016  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CLS12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I realize that different parts of the world and country have varying views on marijuana... But as a family friendly site, do we need the "burning marijuana" coin image on the banner? (Or at least it shows up on my mobile view)..... Not a complaint. Figured it's on topic of family friendly
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 Posted 10/12/2016  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1917 T1 quarter is the only "nude" coin that id like to think is acceptable.
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I realize that different parts of the world and country have varying views on marijuana... But as a family friendly site, do we need the "burning marijuana" coin image on the banner? (Or at least it shows up on my mobile view)..... Not a complaint. Figured it's on topic of family friendly


If the kids can recognise what a marijuana leaf looks like then I would image that the damage has already been done
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 Posted 10/13/2016  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeysanders627 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Kids need to be allowed the time in their lives to simply be kids. Whether something is labeled as art or not, there is no dire necessity for kids to lose their innocence b/c they were on a coin forum.


When my classmates and I visited those museums, it did not cause us to lose our innocence. If anything, we as children learned to appreciate things that were never known to us. We learned the different styles of art and appreciated how difficult it was to paint things well. Have you ever tried to be Bob Ross? I did. My happy tree does not look anywhere near as good as his did. That guy was amazing. He made painting look so easy.

If anything causes children to lose their innocence, it is scenes of violent imagery. Whether it is in the home, outside, or on television, I think that does more harm to our children.


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If we allow the extremely explicit ones.... You can explain to the literally thousands of kids' parents why they're there after we assured them, in person while giving their kids bags of free coins, they wouldn't be. I'll forward all the inquiries to you. What's your phone number so I can give it out to the angry parents whose 9 year old just asked them what that person is doing to that other person?


I think a solution is to create a section where adult themed coins are discussed and sold. The only way to enter that section is to pay $1.00 through PayPal. Then you send a password to that member. I doubt nine year olds have PayPal accounts.


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Also, this will not turn into a random policy bashing topic as you have tried to incite.


I'm not bashing anything. I think highly of this site. If anything, I am trying to inspire and not incite. I want to inspire healthy debate. Changes can also be positive. It does not have to mean anything negative about CCF.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I think a solution is to create a section where adult themed coins are discussed and sold. The only way to enter that section is to pay $1.00 through PayPal. Then you send a password to that member. I doubt nine year olds have PayPal accounts.


If you think that's a solution, create/manage/and maintain a website like this one for a few years. If it works better than this one, I'll become a member. (I doubt that I'll spend $1 to get a password to the 'adult section' though.)
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 Posted 10/13/2016  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeysanders627 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Dad's house, Dad's rules.


Of course, but it never hurts to ask.
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I think a solution is to create a section where adult themed coins are discussed and sold. The only way to enter that section is to pay $1.00 through PayPal. Then you send a password to that member. I doubt nine year olds have PayPal accounts.


We're not going to go through that for what might amount to 5 topics a year on a handful of explicit coins that we can do without. It's just not that important. Also when a coin like that is posted, the topic has to be constantly monitored by the Staff for off color comments that almost always happen.


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If anything, I am trying to inspire and not incite.


We'll have to agree to disagree on that. When you ask if anyone else disagrees with any policies and even use this guy => , how else am I supposed to take it?
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Joey , best to leave this topic alone .It is really not worth the time and effort we are spending on this ridiculous subject .
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@Joey
I grew up, thankfully, in a day where there was a lot less problems in society with the natural troubles that result from thinking there are not ideas which children should be exposed to until they are of a proper age. That society was one where personal responsibility and personal restraint for the sake of an honorable society meant much of what plagues (in many areas) our modern society was nowhere near as prevalent as it is today.

From your post it seem you are not of the age where you have yet had your own kids to raise. I raised four in what the media nowadays would call an old-fashioned way - letting them be kids and not force feeding them with issues inappropriate for age level. They were constantly praised in public on their politeness, responsibility, reasoning, and many other positive traits as they were growing up. Now two are happily married in situations which I highly doubt will ever end in a broken family. They all have a strong work ethic and rise to the top in their jobs/efforts in our modern society b/c of their responsible character.

Just one of the things I made sure my kids were not exposed to was the very thing being discussed here. Hormones raging are the hardest things for youth to deal with responsibly when it is their time in life to do so. Premature exposure incites curiosity that most often leads to many, many tragic, unwanted, and sometimes devastating situations. A parent normally loves their own child enough they don't want to help them down a possible path of hurt.

Bobby, I applaud your wisdom.
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