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 Posted 10/13/2016  02:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add heronotzero to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

I found this coin in my friend's collection. It is a peculiar coin (39mm diameter, 27gms weight, silver) without denomination. The obverse side does not carry a denomination, but instead carries the year of minting, 1880, but the zero in 1880 is slightly off-center. The back of the coin contains only 10 stars as compared to the 13 you usually see. I want to know if this is a rare coin or an error coin. Would somebody be able to throw some light on that?

I checked online and the dimensions and weight of the coin match the 1 dollar coin minted in 1880s but obviously those coins contain the denomination. I want to know if this is valuable to a collector.

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 Posted 10/13/2016  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe that is an actual coin.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heronotzero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You mean it could be a fake coin? That was my initial reaction too, but what interested me was that the dimensions and weight match the silver dollar from 1880. The differences are that the year which has to be on the reverse, is on the obverse (which made me think this was an error coin), and the "En Pleuribus Unum" is missing alongside the 13 stars on the reverse, here I have only 10 stars.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  02:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A US dollar from 1880 should be either a Morgan dollar or a Trade dollar.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a fantasy token to me, based on existing coin designs.

An actual coin always has a denomination on it. This one hasn't.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake, Fantasy, whatever you want to call it, it isn't worth much if anything.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Only of value to those who COLLECT fakes and fantasy issues. Probably worth $2-3 to one of them.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is actual silver (and I would be surprised if it is)it would be worth more. any coin dealer should be able to determine this.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.

To much wrong to be a U.S mint product. Even patterns have
denomination .. and would have had 13 stars.

Best you could hope for is finding out if it is silver.

Finding out why it was made .. for what purpose ... might get
you some value .. over silver ..

If it is not silver ... dollar or two
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 Posted 10/13/2016  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hibernias to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you do the tissue paper test (split a Kleenex in half and lay it over the coin in good light), that should show if it is silver or not. Silver will show up as bright and shiny as ever, while cupronickel or plated silver will be dark.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An odd thing for sure.



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 Posted 10/14/2016  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heronotzero to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for your answers
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 Posted 10/18/2016  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a definite fake/fantasy coin
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 Posted 10/18/2016  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a coin, as it was not issued (monetized) by a government. And it doesn't have a denomination.

It could be a medal, game piece, token, fantasy, etc.
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