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Byzantine 1222 - 1254 Gold

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I am looking at this coin for a possible purchase.

Hoping to get some opinions.
Is it authentic?
Desirable?
General opinion?
Value?



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 Posted 10/14/2016  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did strongly consider Byzantine gold as it can be had for a not unacceptable price.. personally I thought the Heraclius or Tiberius Solidus coins seemed to offer good aestetics and value for money.

I am not particularly interested in coins with religious connections but since it is an area of appeal to some I guess that inflates the depiction of Christ coins, plus any coin mentioned in the bible.

Personally this one looks a bit worn for it to take my fancy. You could have something like the following (much clearer than your coin) but for half the money I personally would prefer the aforementioned solidus types.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/nu...Default.aspx

I guess its all personal preference.
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The coin appears genuine and desirable to Byzantine collectors like my self, that being said it does have some negative issues. For a gold coin which is going to be expensive I would want more detail. The reverse legend is worn away along with the face of Christ on the obverse. What is the asking price?



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We have not come up with a price .. because neither the seller or myself
have any idea of it's value.

For me to even think about buying it ...the price would have to be low.
Or what I think is low ...

Is $250 .. $300 low? Or is that high?
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There are several listed on Vcoins that range in from $250-$550. My first thought was around $250, but the price has gone up a bit. So if you could get this at no more than $300 you are doing good.

https://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.as...signed=False
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I agree with the above, for that sort of money both parties should feel its a fair deal.
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Very good advice. ... Thank you both
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Interestingly, my 1974 edition of Sear's Byzantine Coins and Their Values has this coin listed at 250 British Pounds in VF condition.
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My 1987 edition has it at 100 pounds, they must have found some between the two editions. I think the VF/EF grade is a bit high, I'd say aVF for the reverse and Fine for the obverse.
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And I should point out, for the "one from every country" collectors, that this technically is not a "Byzantine Empire" coin. After the Crusader conquest of Constantinople in 1204, the Byzantine Empire split into four pieces (the Latin Empire, Epirus, Trebizond and Nicaea); this coin is from the largest "Byzantine" piece, the "Empire of Nicaea".

I don't have a coin from the Empire of Nicaea yet.
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