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Anybody Else Hate Cardboard Holders?

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I get it, they protect coins, they're not expensive, plus you can write stuff on them. All those things about them are awesome, and still.... I hate 'em.

I'm still new enough to all this that I find myself frequently pulling my coins out to look closely at them after I learn something new.

It just feels like they put too much distance between me and the coin. They impede the view of the rim (which is important with coins that have lettering, etc.). The plastic glares, its hard to view through it with a loupe, and it cracks and dumps the coin (ok, admittedly, the coins I've had this problem with were in my grandpa's collection, so those holders are older than I am, but it's still REALLY annoying to pull a holder out of the plastic page in his book and have the coin fall out).

Yeah, just plain archival quality flips are just as bad for glare and loupe viewing, and you risk damage to the coin every time you slide them out of the sleeve. Plus, even tho I'm pretty new to this, I've already had a couple that are coming apart where you fold them, just because I've unfolded them a few times to look at the reverse or remove the coin for a closer look.

Lighthouse Capsules seem best for durable, long-term storage, they can be opened and the coin removed with less chance of scratching, but they are more expensive and there's no way to include a label or notes without impeding view of the coin. Plus, for larger coins, if you want to put them in the plastic notebook sleeves, they will strain the seams.

Airtite ring capsules are my favorites for gift coins (the ring not only protects them but adds a nice finish to the coin in terms of presentation) and long-term storage of my best coins. But again they impede viewing the rim and you can't really put those things in the plastic book pages--I tried and the seam around that pocket popped.

Far as I can tell, there aren't any ideal options for protecting coins and keeping them easily accessible and viewable.

Anybody know of something I haven't found yet? Or am I just way too nit-picky?
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I like a good quality 2x2 staple type holder. If you want to see the edge just get a holder that is one or two times larger the the coin you are putting in it,cent in a quarter holder. Make sure to flatten those staples.
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Make sure to flatten those staples.

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 Posted 10/23/2016  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand your complaints, but still don't really mind 2x2. Like you said they are cheap, so I don't mind opening them carefully and pulling a coin out if I need to look at. I generally don't need to do this very often though.
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I don't mind the cardboard flips with staples.
I also don't mind the plastic mylar flips.
I like air tites, but the round ones are hard for me to store.


The kind like below store nicely, and do allow you to put a date/mm sticker on them if you want, without impeding the view of the coin. But they are not as inexpensive as the other, so I only typically put higher value coins that are uncirculated in them.


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I'm familiar with the square hard plastic holders. My coin shop sells them for $1 each new, but they have used holders for $0.10. I got a square cent tube for $0.10 once.
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No matter what you choose, you will always have some type of Mylar (without plasticizer) between you and the coin.

If you really love taking the coin out to "play" with it, or to learn more by careful viewing, please be sure you are using cotton gloves and a drop board (a cushy surface that won't harm the coin if it is dropped).

The evil chemicals naturally on our hands can "infect" a coin in short order. The suggestion of using a larger size 2X2 has already been offered and I would echo that suggestion.
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The clear plastic snap lock holders as photographed by
''Crazyglue ''are nice but I've found them to scratch easily .
I have always used 2x2 cardboard holders and as John suggested use a larger diameter for the coins that you want the rims to show . However; if you don't already have one ,get yourself a flat clinch staple gun and staples from Wizard coin supply's . I will never use any other stapler again.
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I use 2X2 white envelopes for all raw coins, adding a soft cotton inset pocket for more valuable pieces.
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The old style coin cabinets (and Lighthouse sells a modern version in an aluminum case)would eliminate some of your aggravation, but add more: large cost per coin, and huge increase in bulk.
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Make sure to flatten those staples.


I use a stapler that puts the staples in flat. That way there is nothing sticking out to scratch other coins or holders.

I have one like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COIN-STAPLE...AOSwDuJWxlTq

It works great! Shop around, you may be able to find one cheaper, but I think I paid around $20.00 or more for mine.
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I don't mind it for cheap coins, but for coins $50 or more, find a better holder.

There is also another problem I have with some of the dealers, mainly, on ebay. If you are selling coins, why don't you offer priority shipping as an option? I am willing to pay extra for it, especially when I paid over $800 for a coin. I shouldn't have to message the buyer for stuff like that. It should already be an option.
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What is so great about Priority Mail? It usually takes exactly the same amount of time as First Class. I ship 100+ packages per week on ebay (not coins) and I offer First Class and Priority because some people insist on Priority, but I pretty much roll my eyes when someone does that for a package under 1lb. Priority for packages <1lb is a scam the post office uses to make more money. Priority Flat Rate boxes are a similar rip off for the vast majority of people.

That being said, anyone selling a coin worth more than a couple hundred dollars should be sending it insured and signature required anyway.
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Mylar flips, except nothing else
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What is so great about Priority Mail? It usually takes exactly the same amount of time as First Class.


Not always. I order from a lot of coin and bullion dealers from the West Coast. I live in South Carolina. Priority mail is much faster.

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I haven't bought much of anything on ebay in years, but good point!

OTOH, the other day I ordered some gluten-free staples for my mom on Amazon (the stuff she likes is hard to find in stores). She needed some of it ASAP, so I looked at shipping options. Admittedly, we are too cheap to go with the 1-2 day option, so I didn't look too hard at that, but I clicked the next quickest options, and they only saved us one day over the free option, and even then we were going to be waiting two weeks!
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