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Looking For Value Of "Selected Canadian Coinage Of Victoria 1837-1901"

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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Paul Johnston to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
inherited a framed set of 9 coins and two stamps minted in England and I assume in circulation in Canada at some point. There are two 5 cent silver, two 10 cent silver, two large cent, two 25 cent silver, and one 1892 50 cent. They look like they were in circulation but cannot be a judge to the condition otherwise. I couldn't find a reference to this set anywhere on the internet so hoping someone can tell me something about it.

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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Various similar sets have been produced over time. There were generally not targeted at sophisticated collectors. Judging by the picture, which is not too detailed, it looks like a number of coins were harshly cleaned when they were put in the set. This has likely significantly reduced the numismatic value I am afraid. Even if cleaned, Victorian coins will have some numismatic value though. If some aren't cleaned there may be better news. I would start by carefully opening the back to check all the dates and look for signs of damage or wear on the hidden sides.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are the dates of the smaller denominations. It looks like one has to be an 1858 or 59 large cent. Just the 1892 50 cent is worth $500 to $2000, depending on the condition .. and that one looks pretty good. Most Victorian silver has lots of followers. There will be someone chiming in who has seen the set for sale somewhere. Glad to see you here.
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 Posted 10/27/2016  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I assume the 50 cent piece he has in there is probably the less rare 1892 obv 4 so is worth much less then 500-2000. My experience is the same as Smallcentguy I've seen a few sets like this one, all the coins were harshly polished to make them look shiny and they use common dates whenever possible. Luckily the victorian coins will hold at least some value but you should take better pictures first before taking them out as I think you might get more just by selling it as a presentation piece for like 100 dollars. If they are all polished I would just assume they are not rare pieces and sell it intact frame and all.
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Wow, nice, I like it.
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I believe there are several of these sets, for Edward, and George V, again you need to figure out the dates. once you know the dates, here is a good reference website to look at.

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Many thanks to all for your comments and advice! I removed the back cover to see the other dates and general condition and they are: 5 cent silver 1892 and 1899, 10 cent silver 189? and 1900, large cent 1888 and 1896, 25 cent silver 1874 and 1900, and 50 cent 1892.I'm not a good judge, but I would say that they were all circulated and then polished as some details (like the date on one of the 10 cent pieces) cannot be seen. The two large pennies look very good but all the others show some sign of wear. Alas, the 50 cent piece is quite worn. I found a few images of good 50 cent coins online and they have much more detail!

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 Posted 10/29/2016  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, the half has been cleaned and/or polished.

These sets were sold on the home shopping network quite awhile ago and it seems that most of them had the same degree of condition problems.

Years ago, I remember one elderly gentlemen had a KGV framed set at a coin show and when he asked a coin dealer what he could get for it, the dealer replied "well, the frame is worth about 10 bucks".
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I stand by my original assessment that its worth more as a presentation piece. You might get around 20(25 on a good day) for the 50 cent piece as its about G-4 harshly clean/polished. Best guess is there is probably 50 dollars(at absolute best) in coins in the frame. If I were looking to sell something like this I'd be looking for anywhere between 50-100 dollars. I'd personally just stick it on my wall though cause I love coins.
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That explains the source! My father-in-law had a Home Shopping Channel addiction for a few years. He also has three matching framed sets of the coins from three different British monarchs George V, George VI, and Elizabeth II that are likely from the same source. These coins are actually in pretty good shape and could potentially be unpolished and look un-circulated (to my untrained eye). However, I did see someone selling one of these framed sets on-line for about $80CDN and it hadn't sold yet so I suspect they have little value as well.

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They are nice wall hangings I have some paper currency wall hangings in my den they look good
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Coins look polished ...

But they are a nice looking display
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I have a similar framed hanging called "Canada at War" containing various coins from WW1 and 11. It was made by a company called The Excelsiors Collectors Guild in the mid '90s. On closer investigation I was rather amazed to discover some of the older coins have been hand-painted on the outward side to make them appear more attractively toned. What a letdown.
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Granny bait.
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I put one of these sets together just awhile ago trying to put in all MS coins.... I had a LOT of fun doing it and love looking at it
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As with the OP, my framed set was inherited as well and it does hold some sentimental value. AgCoinAu, I really like the idea of replacing the embarrassingly enhanced coins with specimens worthy of display, that's what I intend to do.
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