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1908 French Indochina Piastres

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So was perusing the local ads and found an ad for 2 1908 piastres. "Cool" I thought, "usually coins arent found in this garage sale app we have". So I message the seller and she informs me "hey my roommate has 5 of these actually" so I buy the 5 of them for $75. Not too bad since they seem to go between $20-30 online.

But also was curious... Anyone have any idea what makes them tone that black? And would acetone help that at all? Thanks for looking!!


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 Posted 11/12/2016  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cara to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure of authenticity? Have you weighed them?
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 Posted 11/12/2016  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup weighed them and they weigh the 27 grams and all have the silver sound.
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That's good, they appeared to be cast but weight is ok, so I think they are average circulated. I do not like that colour only distributed arround the edge but I think you could sell $20 each, wich will give you a good profit.
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 Posted 11/12/2016  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah the weights are all good but wasn't sure why the blackness was around the edges like that. Improper storage or something? Acetone doesn't do anything
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 Posted 11/12/2016  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you try a wire brush?


Seriously though - this is a great pick up!
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They all look fake. I think you got scammed.

How does the thickness compare to genuine coins? Have you XRFed them?
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Hm that don't sound good. Idk what the xrf is and I don't have any other piastres to compare them to. But the weight is what it should be and they all sound like my silver dollars. Should I compare thickness to a Morgan? Also the seller was a 50+ year old woman so don't know if that means much but didn't seem too alarming. What other ways could I tell authenticity? Details looked good when I compared to pictures online
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The irregular rims and smashed look to the obverse tell me all I need to see.

Straight from the no-no site:

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The example shown in the pictures seems to have that mushy cast "look" about it.

With these being one of the most heavily faked world coins around, I would not hold out much hope for their authenticity.
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Unless the specs are the exact same as that of a Morgan dollar, that test is useless. You need to check thickness because a common trick is to make the coins thicker so that they weigh the same as a coin made of the real metal.

Look for imperfections (pits, marks, etc) and see if they are present on all the coins. That means that they were all made from the same counterfeit dies.
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Sorry to say, but I agree with the others.
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Well bummer. I will have to try seeing what my lcs says and contact the seller. I would be super surprised if a 50+ year old woman was selling fakes knowingly and see if a return could possibly be worked out... It definitely didn't seem like a "too good to be true" sort of thing since they wanted a normal amount of money by each at first unless it was a giant hustle.. thanks for the opinions. Thought I did the research but apparently not enough.
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 Posted 11/13/2016  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake. Hope you are able to get your money back. Being Craigslist I expect the seller will have selective amnesia and forget that they sold you these coins and deny all responsibility. I don't want to seem mean spirited but this is an obvious fake.
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 Posted 11/13/2016  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I read bleach will tarnish silver and make it turn black... Is this not what normally it would do then? It appears black to me...

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Silver plate?
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