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1796 Draped Bust Large Cent S-103 Liherty (I Think...)

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Just won this on ebay. I have her pegged as an S-101, which is rated as an R5- variety. I'm thinking a conservative G-06.

Edit: She is an S-103, or the LIHERTY variety with the reverse of 1794.

What thinketh thou?

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I'm actually at G04, but these always go a little higher, so probably G06 in a holder. Very nice! A bit hard to see, but is the top of the 6 touching the bust? It doesn't on an S-101.
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I'm actually at G04, but these always go a little higher, so probably G06 in a holder. Very nice! A bit hard to see, but is the top of the 6 touching the bust? It doesn't on an S-101.


I was wondering about that as well. For the reverse die, the S-101 had the only obverse die with the LIBERTY in the same place. I only have the seller's pictures to judge from.

Please stand by as I do more research.
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nice looking coin. G-6 is about right.
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Here is a certified example for reference:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cent...bnail-071515
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Would not be surprised at G-06. Very nice!
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Nice buy. I can see G-06
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G-6 pushing VG-8
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I would be leaning G 4 ... but would not be surprised if it graded G 6,
based on these pictures.
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So I too was watching this coin and couldn't figure the Sheldon number. I was using what I thought was a die crack (or is it a scratch) on the reverse from the top of the "1" in the fraction through the bottom of the wreath and into the ribbon. No luck with any 1796 I viewed but after that I thought it may be a 1798 but never had a chance to check that. I think it would grad out at VG-8 EAC6. Great original uncleaned color!
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Just shy of VG. I'm at G-6. Nice coin!
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Oh yes S-103! Very nice. Once you get her, post some fresh pictures.
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Reverse of S-103 looks like yours. I would really like to see some new pics when you get this coin. Look at the position of the "BE" in "LIBERTY" Perhaps I'm over thinking it but on your coin the "E" looks lower than the "B" and on the S-103 they look pretty even. Also on your coin the "6" looks like it's almost touching the bust. Here is an S-103...

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Your initial attribution of S-101 is correct. R5- is the commonly held consensus for scarcity. This is a nice example and extremely attractive!

My EAC grade would be VG7 net G5. TPG grade VG8-VG10.
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G-6.
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Your initial attribution of S-101 is correct. R5- is the commonly held consensus for scarcity. This is a nice example and extremely attractive!


The first thing I saw was the reverse of 1794, which limited the possibilities to only a few varieties. Then the right side of the T was to the right of the front curl, narrowing it down to S-101 and 103. At first, I couldn't see the inverted B under the B, so I assumed it was 101. But the 6 is too high for a 101, so it must be 103.

That is my logic. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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