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Clear Fake PCGS 1891-S Morgan Off Ebay Cert# 32630466

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 Posted 12/08/2016  8:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shaf2b to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thought this was too good to be true. Going to recover money back. Any features on PCGS slab to suggest it is fake? Thanks

Clear-Fake-PCGS-1891-S-Morgan-Off-Ebay-Cert#-32630466

Clear-Fake-PCGS-1891-S-Morgan-Off-Ebay-Cert#-32630466

Clear-Fake-PCGS-1891-S-Morgan-Off-Ebay-Cert#-32630466

Clear-Fake-PCGS-1891-S-Morgan-Off-Ebay-Cert#-32630466

Clear-Fake-PCGS-1891-S-Morgan-Off-Ebay-Cert#-32630466

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 Posted 12/08/2016  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, at least they got the certification number correct!
The slab is a better counterfeit than the coin. Who was the seller, and what was their history and feedback score like?
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 Posted 12/08/2016  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dual-brain to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 12/08/2016  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I entered the number on the PCGS Certificate Verification site and there is no match.

Also, the number on your slab seems too long.

Here's the site: http://www.PCGS.com/cert/
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 Posted 12/08/2016  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex12780 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This the reason why I think getting the coins picture taken should be included in the submission fees. It would really help end if not drastically slow the production of fake slabs.
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 Posted 12/08/2016  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse is no where close to MS. There is no detail in the hair. Can't see an obverse like that being called MS66 by PCGS or any reasonable grader. Reverse looks better.
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 Posted 12/08/2016  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shaf2b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seller seems a newbie. 13 positive reviews as a buyer. Has agreed to a full refund and profusely apologized. Says he bought it at an auction. Most likely a Chinese knock-off!
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The coin itself is a horrid fake easily identified as such.

The slab also looks wrong, although it is a lot better than the coin.

Glad your seller was honest even if he probably got nailed on this thing.
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 Posted 12/09/2016  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turingmach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shaf2b, looks like you weren't the only person to buy a counterfeit Morgan from this seller: 172434225835
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When I checked the numbers, they both match on PCGS. I agree with the MS66 grading problem, but how can you tell it's fake?
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I'm sorry, Shaf2b, you have to recover your money on this coin.

Did you agree with the MS-66 grade when you bought it?
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Pics were blurry. It was a 24 hr auction. Price I finally paid was worth a punt in case it was a newbie coin seller. Lesson learnt. I am kinda a newbie myself. Will return coin tomorrow and expect a hassle free refund. Will confirm here when I do.
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 Posted 12/09/2016  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shaf2b,

I had seen this counterfeit coin on another coin forum when it was sold on ebay. I am sorry to hear that it was a CCF member that purchased the coin. I am glad that you are getting a refund.
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As always, buy the coin not the holder - slabs are much easier to fake than coins
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The obverse looks scrubbed. They couldn't find a better fake to put in the fake holder?
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Quote:
When I checked the numbers, they both match on PCGS.


I just tried again and there was no match.

I checked and rechecked the number I entered.....so I'm puzzled.
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