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Edited by lohan
01/16/2017 12:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm not too familiar with errors too, but it does look like a broad struck coin to me. But it is unusually broad, so hopefully someone else will chime in with more info.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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could you provide some measurements?
weight? Inner section dimensions?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That is so very cool..
Thanks for posting ..and I'm sure that SPP will love it..
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The Canada 1964 error penny weighs 3.25 grams. The inside circle is more of a very slight oval, 5/8 to 11/16-inch in diameter.
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looks like it was struck on a larger planchet..with no collar
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Rest in Peace
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I'm like most of us I don't know much about this type of coin either but it sure is impressive looking I would agree with Paulsz some form of broad strike
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Definitely not a broadstruck coin. A broadstruck coin simply means the collar die did not engage. Some of the design elements are missing (which is not possible with a centred broadstruck coin) and the denticles appear to be stretched out, but also obliterated. This can happen with legit broadstrikes, but the reverse for Canadian coins is also the hammer die, so it would be "cupped" in that direction, and not with a raised lip. It is also not a die cap. Zonad does have a legit coin, die cap, with a flange like this, and you see the denticles stretching out. http://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/coi...px?i=1830130"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Coins and Canada has a 1955 listed as a capped die looks the same
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That 1955 example on Coins and Canada is not a legit die cap. It is impossible to have a struck coin stuck on a die as a cap, with a smaller inside diameter than the die itself.... the 1978 example they show, is a legit cap.
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okay, thanks for pointing that out
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As I study this coin, there is another legit possibility. It looks like the word ELIZABETH is stretched on the outer rim (right side in the image above) in mirror image (brockage), the outer rim of the obverse flange is cupped upward, like any coin that is struck by a die cap would be. This could be a coin that was originally broadstruck by a later stage capped die, which was then dislodged (or a mint worker removed it). Then it was flipped over and placed back in the press and broadstruck again by the dies. There are potential elements from the first reverse strike preserved in the Queen's shoulder.
So, I digress, this could be something that was created at the mint, but undoubtedly had a helping hand... it is not a broadstrike, and not a die cap, but a double struck coin, first strike was broadstruck by a reverse die cap, and then flipped over and struck again, broadstruck...
This is a coin I would love to study in hand, there could be more to see with subtle angles and the right lighting...
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It looks like a large cent was put in the press(at the mint) and manually helped through the process. It looks like there are design elements or lettering in the smooshed part .. smooshed being a definitive engineering term.
Edited by okiecoiner
01/16/2017 4:43 pm
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It loooks like there are design elements or lettering in the smooshed part .. smooshed being a definitive engineering term. There is a lot of truth in that statement Okie..  lohan..SPP should see this cent "in hand".. |
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PMD!
Easily made with a couple of washers and a press.
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Posted 01/16/2017 12:48 pm
