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What Do You Think About This Really Odd Canada Error 1964 Penny?

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 Posted 01/16/2017  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's obviously a damaged coin in my opinion. I agree with the above, 2 washers or something similar were involved. i'd be willing to make a bet that the flattened out area is thinner than a coin by a noticeable amount. and that dot on it near the date is from a pit or divot in the washer. a raised lump like that wouldn't occur from the die or any other process I could think of, and they aren't found on planchets.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigchip22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wish I could find something like that
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 Posted 01/16/2017  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely post mint damage.
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My first impression is post-mint damage. It looks similar to the damage given to a coin that's been squeezed into one of those "lucky penny" souvenirs, having had the rim flattened to make it grip better inside the ring and not simply pop out. Though I don't see why such a thing would need such a large ring as this.
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It's pretty well circulated for such a spectacular error. If legit, you would think it would have been pulled out of circulation sooner. Old pennies tend to be the preferred coin for experimentation...
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It's interesting how the denticles appear all squished out precisely where they disappear from the struck center portion. My hunch is also PMD, although I can't visualize how you'd press this with washers and not destroy the center part.
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I think it could be done with 1/2" iron pipe, a hammer, and a block of wood (oak).
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When I get back to my office this week I will make one.
-a washer sits on the bottom of the press
-a penny is placed on that washer perfectly centred
-a washer is placed on top of that penny
-lower the press to squeeze the sandwiched coin and washers.
-the copper will flow out between the washers as this is the only place for the metal to go
-the washers will sink into the obverse and reverse sides of the coin as steel is harder then copper.
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Definitely post mint damage.


Ah..!! That's too bad..I was hoping that it was something special,..but the experts have spoken..
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Just for the heck of it lohan can you post a photo of the edge of the coin
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This coin does not look like any sort of authentic error I have ever seen. My first impression is PMD, like darryldarryl said. Not much hope it is real in my opinion. It's interesting to see how it's fully toned - it must have been made many years ago.
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I've just read that it can't be legit.

..and that's because a larger planchet would never fit through the necessary opening to fall into the holding collar. It can't happen..
I guess that someone could place a larger planchet into the strike by hand and then remove it..

The coin must always be struck on a same size or smaller planchet to be legit..That's my take on this..
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I am thinking "Mint sport" here where a larger sized copper coin or planchet has been put into the press and this is the result.
That "Dot" on the left hand side of the reverse cold be an alignment mark
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This coin does not look like any sort of authentic error I have ever seen. My first impression is PMD, like darryldarryl said. Not much hope it is real in my opinion. It's interesting to see how it's fully toned - it must have been made many years ago.

but change not much hope to no hope that it's real.
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