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What Do You Think About This Really Odd Canada Error 1964 Penny?

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 Posted 01/18/2017  10:56 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DEVLEC... your conclusion fails, when the collar is disengaged. That is the whole definition of a broadstruck coin, when there is no collar die.

See this one (which I would love to have):

What-Do-You-Think-About-This-Really-Odd-Canada-Error-1964-Penny?

And, see this one, which is in my collection:

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/29316763
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 Posted 01/18/2017  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is an interesting coin what ever it ends up being I'll be watching for the answer
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That's my take on this..


OK ..SPP ..you've just changed "my take on this"..

You can see why I'm not an error expert...

I hope that you do get to see this one "in hand"..
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 Posted 01/18/2017  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen some interesting arguments posted here, but I'm still with the PMD crowd.
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 Posted 01/18/2017  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still heavily in the Post Mint Damage corner, almost 100% sure. In my opinion, the coin in question doesn't look like SPP's examples. SPP's examples are clearly errors.
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It's pretty well circulated for such a spectacular error. If legit, you would think it would have been pulled out of circulation sooner.


This says it all for me.
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I pressed a 2005 cent at my office today as I forgot to bring a few 1960's pennies.
Here is the result...




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The edge could easily be spooned to give it a die cap appearance.
Lets keep in mind that this is a different metal composition from the original posted image therefore a slightly different look.
Take a close look.
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It looks like darryldarryl has solved this Mystery
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Well, that answers my question. I never would have thought there would be enough metal at the rim to make the "flange" part so wide. What does it look like in an edge view?
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darryldarryl, I am impressed that the plating stretched out with it... looking forward to getting my teaching examples!!
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OK ..SPP ..you've just changed "my take on this"..


May I retract that again..

I'm back in the darryldarryl camp.....and very nice work indeed..
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I would like to see the coin in hand - before giving "my final answer Regis"....
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... I'm back in the darryldarryl camp ...


And I'm on my way to Home Depot for large washers and a larger hammer ;)

Gotta try this one at home!

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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With the coin in hand, it is absolutely a man-made error, thanks to the op for sending it to me, and thanks to Darryl for sending me some more home made goodies - I picked up the envelope today, and I cannot wait to open it!!
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