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Bernhard of Carinthia (1202-1256) (Minted after 1220) Mint: Landstrass (Kostanjevica) CNA Cn 4 variant Obverse legend: +LANDESTROSEN This coin type is one of my favourit of Friesach-types. You can see 5 coins on the pictures, all of them were minted with a same obverse die, but with 4 different reverse dies. (Die duplicates: two in the middle.)   In this case, a little more difficult to recognize a match, because of the minting process. At the end of the process they hit the coin with a hammer few times as you can see. |
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Neat coins and impressive detective work, Szilárd. While I have spotted the occasional match of dies of some of my coins with online examples, I don't think I have any that match one another within my collection. Congrats on owning the matching group.  Edited by Kamnaskires
01/16/2017 3:22 pm
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An impressive set and I imagine the chances of finding that die connection is pretty slim. Congratulations.
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Very nice set. Finding die matches make it even more interesting.
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@baltas, here is my Carinthian pfennig. Could he maybe be a brother to any of yours?  I'm pretty sure that the answer is no as mine have two annulets on the obv that are missing on yours, but am interested in your thoughts.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thank you guys!  @Bob, I saw you often find die matched coins online! @Ron, and in this case the die matching help you figured out the obverse legend. This type was made a few little different legend like LANDESTROS -TROSE -TROSEN -TROSD etc. @Moxking, yes but usually if the coin is a rare type you can find easier. (This type is more common with pellets/dots, but that type still not too common.) @Spence, great style isn't it?  I think they made the variant without pellets first. I will check the relatives!  Edited by Baltas
01/17/2017 2:30 pm
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Edited by Baltas
01/18/2017 03:24 am
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Ok @Baltas nice job with the overlay. I didn't bother to look at the rev design for die matching. A question for you, when you say: Quote:
I think they made the variant without pellets first. Could you clarify? I don't have CNA, so I just have the date for my coin as 1202 to 1256 AD. Can you narrow that down for me? Is it 1202 to 1220 AD? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Baumgartner wrote 1220-1235 for this type. I have CNA and a few other source, if you need information.  Edited by Baltas
01/19/2017 4:14 pm
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Awesome thanks for the date info! And, wow that is some nice hoard you have there.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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