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Importance Of Boxes And Certificates For Proof Sets

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 Posted 01/24/2017  08:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add einstem to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hey there..
I am getting started with my coin collecting again after a VERY long break, and am interested in collecting some coins in albums as well as some select proof sets.
For example, I am looking at the State Quarters Proof Sets and maybe the Presidential dollar Proof Sets.
And then perhaps even some complete Mint Proof Sets from the 70s and 80s as a start.
So, my question for you, is how "important" is it when collecting proof sets to also try to get the "box" and "certificate" with it?
I am starting to go to some local coin shows and looking on ebay (carefully!) as well as looking at the (207) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed site, and see that some proof sets are in the holders only, and some also have some (or all) of the original cases.
Do the cases actually add value from a collectors point of view? Or are they really unnecessary and should I just focus on finding a nice set in slab.
Thanks so much for any advice.
Regards,
Michael
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 Posted 01/24/2017  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That too is a matter of personal taste. It almost comes down to having the original box when buying an antique toy. In those instances it is more valuable. So who knows it may well eventually be so with coins but I don't think in our lifetime though.
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 Posted 01/24/2017  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are going to be putting the coins in an album the ones missing something tend to sell for less so that's your best option. Even the mint sets from the 60s only sell for silver value plus a little. The packaging doesn't mean much at all
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In your other post, you expressed concern over "value down the line". In this one you ask if something will "add value".

If preservation or appreciation in value is desirable, then I respectfully suggest you spend a little more time researching the historical changes in value of the types of things you have stated you want to collect with an eye for how well they maintain their value.

I will say, as a general rule, the packaging and COA do add value (cost you more to acquire).

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It is going to be personal preference and, as mentioned, whether or not you are really concerned about resell.

When I am filling holes in albums it is not important at all. I have broken apart many proof sets to fill these holes. I have kept all of the OGP material when I had it, but there have been plenty of holes filled with coins that had some or no OGP material at all. I should note that resell is not a thought in my mind.

There are some government issued coins/sets that I am collecting as such (not breaking apart). Most I have bought directly from the Mint so I have all of the OGP materials, but there are some things I missed out on that I want to get (like the Prestige Proof Sets). For these I will want to have all issued materials.
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My spin ...

Common mint and proof sets OGP and COA does not matter ..
They are not going to be a good investment for many .. many years.
Break them and put them into your albums.

Better sets like 2012 silver proof sets ... I might not break
up ... But I did break mine .. before they went up.

If you get albums that have proof holes .. best way to fill them
is by breaking sets.

If your collecting them as proof and mint sets ..
Try to get nice OGP with nice coins, and store them well.

For example .. if I get a good deal on sets .. I buy them .. and put them away.
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I totally agree with everything GR said. Except for my
Premier proof sets
Prestige proof sets
American Legacy sets
Limited Edition Silver sets
2012 sets and 1999 silver proof set
everything else has bee broken up and put in albums. Love looking at my albums, not so much my plastic containers.
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