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That actually looks genuine. And, contrary to popular belief, not all valuable coins have to be certified.
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01/31/2017 10:04 pm
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I know it's genuine but I've got it at F-15. Also the lighting obstructs the view of what appears to be a scratch at 12 o'clock. Not to mention it's been cleaned. If this was an original vf, the owner wouldn't hesitate to send it in to a TPG. After all they're asking $4750 for it. |
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I think they'd be hesitant because of the cleaning it's had
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F-15 details harshly cleaned.
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F 15 Dets, Harshly cleaned.
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Sure, the surfaces are not original, but I would not call it "harshly" cleaned. I have seen much, much worse in straight-graded TPG holders. |
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And that scratch on the obverse appears to be an adjusting mark or planchet flaw.
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It is priced substantially above market for a raw coin with possible issues; Heritage sold a PCGS certified F12 (B-9) example @ FUN for $2.9k. If you give this coin a generous F15, a PCGS F15 (B-1) sold for $4.2k only 3 months ago, also @ Heritage. Both PCGS coins were full-grade (problem-free) holders.
The "planchet flaw" or any other issues just make it an even worse deal at the price. The seller, a large coin dealer, probably cracked this out of a full grade non-crossover slab (ICS, ANACS, SEGS) looking for a grade bump & now they can't get it back into a non-details slab so they're trying to minimize their loss by markup and hyperbole; either that, or the problems have kept it out of a holder all along. With this coin, there is ZERO financial incentive, as a coin dealer, to NOT slab it if you can get it into a full grade holder.
I do not think it is harshly cleaned, by the way, especially compared to similar examples in the F12-F15 range.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
01/31/2017 11:49 pm
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Typecoin, I'm probably in a stingy mood given my last purchase. But you have to admit, If this coin was sent to a TPG and graded as fine-details this seller would not be asking $4,750 for this coin. There is a reason it's not slapped. It would be fair to suspect it was slabbed at some point with a details grade. I understand the seller's strategy. But to list it as 'select very fine +' coin for $4,750? C'mon man. |
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I see it as a sharpness F-15 with some claims to VF-20, cleaned with obv adjustment mark Net not better than F-12.
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I would just get a slabbed one instead of taking a chance.
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Agree. This lacks appeal, starting with the price.
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For the record, they want $4,750...  Edited by nss-52
02/02/2017 5:07 pm
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Definitely dipped (surface color is too even).
And I believe I see abrasive cleaning.
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Doesn't ebay require coins over 2500$ to be certified? -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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