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Let's Go Dipping?...1901 S Barber Quarter

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I recently came across this coin on the bay. I know there is a right and wrong way to dip. The fact remains there is no question this coin has been dipped. I may be a minority in this. But, If I am a numismatist that can drop six figures on a coin, I sure am going to require that its surface to be 100% original! What troubles me that it seems the grading companies will slab coins that were dipped. Isn't any form of a dip still removing even a micro layer of a coin's surface? Thus, rendering the surface doctored. Sorry about this newbie rant.



Let's-Go-Dipping?...1901-S-Barber-Quarter

Let's-Go-Dipping?...1901-S-Barber-Quarter
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 Posted 01/31/2017  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks market acceptable to me.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 01/31/2017  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a dip gone well to me
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 Posted 01/31/2017  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing wrong with this coin. Certain dips if done right won't really damage a natural surface but will remove bad tarnish and other things. Stuff like ms70 and ez est should be lightly used, ez est they say to dip for 3-5 seconds, otherwise the acid can damage the surface. Always rinse it off with water and pat it dry so you don't scratch it.
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 Posted 01/31/2017  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but isn't it true a layer of metal albeit small is still removed even if a dip is successful? If so, why is that market acceptable?
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Because it does not destroy the luster, or the natural look, of the coin.
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Quote:
why is that market acceptable?


Because enough people, including me, will take money out of their pocket and buy this coin for close to fmv. Admittedly that is a circular definition, but the correct one.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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That answers do make sense. Thank you.
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The coin in question is an outstanding example for the date. I would love to have it in my collection dipped or not dipped.
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That coin looks like it has great luster. It does not look "overdipped"
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This coin has very nice eye appeal . It is not over dipped .
You say your worried about this slight dip removing some of the surface metal on this coin .
With all do respect ; I as well as many other members find no problems with this Barber quarter .
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The water spot to the right of the date does confirm a dipping. Still a great coin.
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I'm in the same boat as you,even though it's market acceptable and some actually prefer that blast white coin,but not me. To me that's about as ugly as can be. I'd rather something have some color to it that I know hasn't been messed with for a long time.
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It's a beautiful coin. There is obviously an excessive amount of light shining on the coin, so I don't think the coin itself is unreasonable or overdipped in hand.
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Here is the coin. There asking $135k+ for it.



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