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Pillar of the Community
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I recently ran across this coin and would like opinions as to if it is real and grade please. Thanks in advance. Still Lookin   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can we see a close up of the area around the D. I think I see tooling marks around the D.
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Pillar of the Community
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New photo. I also included the tail feathers. They look like they have been polished away some on the die.  |
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Rest in Peace
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Coin197, see his MS-60+ 1909SVDB...And my post on it. These are no doubt fakes, not good ones either, look at face details, the mushy hair and reverse leaves. And the marks @the D. Funny, I still haven't found any of you who want my oceanfront investment property in Nevada for a Really Good Price, come on now!  Still lookin, that mushy tail feathers, indicates a poor cast copy, doubt its even been pressed! Edited by Crazyb0
02/01/2017 7:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Long shot it's a glue-on, easy to test, but it looks OK to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you have doubt as to the authenticity of your coins you might as well send them in for TPG'ing to eliminate that doubt. Coins like what you have posted are highly counterfeited and need to be slabbed to be marketable. (Unless of course you are just posting known counterfeits here to get differences in opinions.) |
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Pillar of the Community
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I actually had no intention of selling them. Of course both coins could be counterfeit. That is why I posted them. I really think that it just a slight chance though. Still Lookin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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...These are no doubt fakes, not good ones either, look at face details, the mushy hair and reverse leaves. And the marks @the D...
Still lookin, that mushy tail feathers, indicates a poor cast copy, doubt its even been pressed! The details look okay to me. The details of genuine coins are often "mushy". The tail feathers especially, are often soft on genuine examples. And there are not casting bubbles. There are die flow lines, which suggest that it was struck, not cast. The color looks good and has toned like silver would. I couldn't tell you anything about the mint mark though. It may or may not be an alteration. As for grade, I'd Say AU Details, cleaned. Large scrape on Washington's cheek as well. |
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Pillar of the Community
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In hand it does not look cleaned. It appears that the reverse was setting down on a hard surface and the obverse was more open to the atmosphere. But it may have been cleaned. The other coins with this one were mostly BU with very little toning. Still Lookin
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Not an expert on this but -- I don't like the look of the leaves on the west side.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
797 Posts |
I do not believe the close up of the mint mark is of the same coin.
Zooming into the D on the first picture there is no detail in the D, its just a blob, but very sharp in the close up. Plus there is a gash in the top left that does not show in the larger photo.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't know anything about these but it doesn't look cleaned to me. The MM appears in a depression, like many genuine Lincolns I've seen..the internet is a friend for getting some ideas on this key quarter. Look through the images on PCGS.com and ha.com and compare. I'm sure there's also plenty of info on this site and others. If you think it's real, send that puppy to PCGS.
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Pillar of the Community
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They are indeed the same coin. The first photo was taken with an old worn out Nikon camera. The second was taken with an AmScope on a microscope. There is different lighting sources on each. If you study the die markers on each photo you will see that they are the same. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19949 Posts |
The pictures are GREAT BTW!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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not the same coin. first pic no damage to the right of MM
second pic shows damage to the right of the MM
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 United States
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They said it was the same coin --- what is the point of claiming it isn't? What purpose would it serve someone to ask questions about the authenticity of a coin, then post pictures of different coins?
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Posted 02/01/2017 7:25 pm
