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New Member
United States
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It only took 46 years but I am about to complete my Lincoln collection. I have wanted this since I was 7. I have done some homework but would like the opinions of others who are smarter than myself. Does anyone see any red lights on this coin. The S looks good. The VDB looks odd probably due to the camera angle. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Jim   |
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Moderator
 United States
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@jrwild9553, first welcome to CCF. Second, congrats on deciding to buy the key to the wheat cents. Third, while I can't help you with red/green lights on this specific piece, I have to say that I would never buy a coin this heavily counterfeited that wasn't in a slab. Maybe you have a great relationship with a coin dealer and you trust him/her very much and so that is good enough, but I would still rather be sure before I drop the money for this coin.
I hope that the others who weigh in will be more helpful about the specifics of your coin.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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New Member
 United States
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I understand about slabbed. But I think I can find trained eyes on this site that will confirm my opinion that this coin is authentic. I am 99% sure, but it does good for peace of mind.
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New Member
United States
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Also Spence, I think people can find good deals on unslabbed coins. You just want to make sure. Besides this is to place in my beloved book.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well looks like Mint Mark #2 and the crossbar of the "B" looks slanted so those are 2 good identifying points. But that's just my opinion.
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Moderator
United States
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Looks 100% genuine to me. I review 1909-S VDB listings on ebay almost every day. The seller of this coin has sold fakes in the past (I have images of four fake 1909-S VDB by this seller in my archives), but they also sell genuine coins of which this is, in my opinion, an authentic example. This is a nice example of a circulated coin with no major damage, corrosion, etc. Fairly even wear, pleasing color, with a some small knicks and dings, but overall a satisfactory coin for the grade and current price (but the auction is not over). Edited by nss-52
02/12/2017 3:13 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Edited by dd27
02/12/2017 3:04 pm
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New Member
United States
6 Posts |
Yes, I am satisfied. And yes DD those are the pages I have seen.
Thanks to everybody for their replies. I appreciate it. Jim
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New Member
United States
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DD, By red lights I mean as far as fake.
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Valued Member
United States
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Jim,
I am not a pro grader but here is my impression.
The obverse looks good but like you on the reverse "The V.D.B. looks odd ..."
The lighting angle is coming in from the top left - NNW is my guess from the highlights on ONE and CENT. So it would make sense the V.D.B. would be highlighted as well. But the highlight is reflecting more of a copper color not brown.
I can only guess...
1) The V.D.B. had an accident or was cleaned recently causing the copper to be revealed.
2) The lighting is discoloring it disproportionately from the 98% rest of the obverse. Try to get another photo of it from a different angle.
3) The V.D.B. was added and no attention was given to giving the new copper a patina.
As Spence stated, this key date is heavily counterfeited. Not being in a slab is to me, a red flag. If the seller is confident in its authenticity they should have no problem having it graded by PCGS or NCG at their expense. Make this a condition of sale so it is slabbed and graded as authentic as well as you validating the grading with the service.
Asking for it to be graded could very well result in you not hearing back from the seller or they'll say it was sold. Plus I am not sure if the source is a local seller or online.
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Pillar of the Community
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The lighting is discoloring it disproportionately from the 98% rest of the obverse. That looks to be a possibility as the "VDB" gets brighter from left to right as does the ring of light next to the rim. Maybe from a camera flash? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Get a slabbed piece.....more piece of mind and easier to sell later
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Moderator
United States
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Looks 100% genuine to me. The next best thing to buying a slabbed coin is having @nss-52 say that it looks good. Sounds like you are proceeding with an abundance of caution and are an informed buyer. Good luck with the auction! Send us a pic when you have it in hand. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't like so many marks on this coin. I would pay $500 for it at most ONLY with a guarantee of authencity.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree genuine and Die Pair #2. Also respectfully suggest it has been cleaned.  |
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Rest in Peace
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