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 Posted 02/21/2017  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I try to walk through it in my mind but obviously I am no expert and have limited knowledge of the minting process.

But tell me how this coin could be a basement job? It is so thin that I would think you would lose all of the obverse details if you ground half of the coin away. Plus you would have to make a soft die to create the reverse design the way it is double or triple struck.

Yes, I have a hard time imagining how this could be done at the mint but I have just as hard a time imagining how this was made in a basement. Please enlighten us!
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Don't think in terms how it was made in the garage - think in terms of how can this possibly be made at the mint? (which is why I worded my earlier reply as questions).

Again, how does one get a 12-sided impression of the rim itself (the 12-sided rim feature is formed by the collar die) way out in the fields of the coin? It is physically impossible.

This, is what you should have seen: http://goccf.com/t/267141

Then, study any number of legitimate double-struck 1-cent coins to see how the second strike almost obliterates the first strike, especially on the fields of the second strike (highest part of the die).

My interpretation? This was originally an error coin struck on a thin planchet (not a split planchet). Then, someone tried to make a "better error" out of it...
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 Posted 02/22/2017  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears that this listing has been removed. Last I saw it was up to $36. I wonder if this was removed by ebay or the seller?
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I noticed it was removed too, and unfortunately I didn't save off the images. It kind of makes me sad in a way. I mean, take a cent in your hand, visualize the planchet one-third the thickness, and ask yourself, really? Hammer job? With all the odd stuff that can happen at the mint? If it was faked, that's some quality work. Maybe the seller should have made forty bucks on it. Let's see, I gotta produce some soft dies (but with tiny denticles) and shave two-thirds of the obverse off and then somehow punch a super-weak obverse and triple-punch the rim and denticles... but it will be worth it! (Sorry in advance for the sarcasm)
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