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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Bought it off ebay. The photo wasn't clear at all, and it came with two others, 1891 O and 1900 O which appear to be about AU55, maybe more, I might upload them later. But this 1889 looks really nice. As always, I'd really appreciate any grade opinions / comments. If I were to send it off to a Third Party Grader, what do you think it would receive? Would it be worth it? FULLSIZES: http://imageshack.com/a/img922/5494/d7neFJ.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img923/96/uxnWfl.jpg      Just for interesting reference, here is one in MS64 graded. I think mine is very similar, if not better. This one below sold for £170, which is $211.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Really nice reverse, but there is a prominent bag mark and abrasion in the left obverse field near the E of the motto as you have pointed out. There are also some large contact marks between liberty's cap and UNUM in the right obverse field. The cheek is also subtly abraded.
I think these separate it from the MS64 example you posted (which looks better than 64 and closer to 65) and imho is a strong 63 that may make 64 on a good day. It is a very nice coin. Congrats.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
02/20/2017 10:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin may have coin counter damage as there are three circular marks on the right field.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Possibility, but I'll agree strong 63.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3210 Posts |
I'm at 63 not worth grading
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
Low AU details on this one for me. There is no way this is a MS coin with the clear and obvious wear on the eagle, wreath bow, hair, and cap. There are nicks and cuts covering every surface, major damage in the right obverse field, and the coin has no luster at all in the provided pictures. Would better pictures to determine actual luster. Sharpness grade = AU53.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
02/20/2017 11:37 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I see plenty of luster on that coin in spite of the grey pictures.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I agree it looks AU with wear on the wing tips and other high spots, I'd say AU-58, probably details from the damage in the right obverse field.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I would think AU-58 from those pictures.
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
1273 Posts |
Thank you for the responses, its a lot shinier that the photo makes out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I personally see a cleaned coin, but it could be that the photo is drowned out by the light.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree it looks like a slider. If you get a break and they call it MS then 63 is possible and if not then 58. It is not worth grading. 64s typically bring $70 USD. Somebody must have thought the 64 you posted was a lock 65 to pay $211 for it.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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@BH1964 I see, thats interesting to know. It could have been possible that someone believed it had been undergraded, and may have resubmitted it? Or it may have been a case of bidding fever, where a collector just needed the specific date! I've been trying to buy Morgan dollars that have been poorly described with the hope of finding a real MS treasure, and so far I've found a few that can pass for MS63/64. I think I may start just collecting slabbed dollars but we'll see. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It could have been possible that someone believed it had been undergraded, and may have resubmitted it? Or it may have been a case of bidding fever, where a collector just needed the specific date! No way to tell unless you know the winning bidder. 1889 Morgans are generally considered to be common dates though. |
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