1895 Indian Head Cent , Just Found In Roll...is It Real? Grade? .. Thanks.

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ter215 Valued Member United States 230 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 8:07 pm WOW, ...1895 IHC, this is pretty cool if real, & in the wild.. just found it in a roll. has some dings on the rim but the field is really solid..also noticed a die crack on reverse...can someone tell me if it's real? and any kind of grade if it is ..i know there are fakes...thanks...terry. * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

ter215 Valued Member United States 230 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 8:41 pm opps sorry, wrong forum .....thanks staff Report this Post to the Staff
Mark1959 Pillar of the Community 7234 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 8:52 pm Seems real by the looks - just seems polished, or else you have a great flash camera! Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 9:07 pm Maybe It's just my eyes ,but I don't know about the date and the ''T'' in cent . They look off . If real, that's a heck of a find for it's showing 4 diamonds and full Liberty ! Report this Post to the Staff
ter215 Valued Member United States 230 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 9:26 pm thanks mark & t-bop ...yea I use a orb microscope & the darn thing has 4 lights on it that I can't tame down...this was a real exciting find coming out a roll ... Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 10:13 pm It is real but the reverse has a lot of damage. Grades about XF details. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
ter215 Valued Member United States 230 Posts	Posted 02/20/2017 10:19 pm WOW ...thanks paralyze, does have some damage. the field looks very good. don't know how it survived without someone snatching it up .....VERY COOL Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 05:36 am Looks real to me, and a nice find in a roll... Report this Post to the Staff
billjones Pillar of the Community United States 1499 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 08:05 am It looks real, but it also looks like it took a hit or something on the reverse which gives it a concave / convex look. I would wager that if you set it down on a flat surface, it would not lie flat. it's a great find from a roll however, and it would be interesting to know its history, given what appears to be an odd. If it has the problem I covered above, it should have a lot more wear or flattening of design on the convex side. Report this Post to the Staff
batboy Pillar of the Community United States 650 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 08:13 am Yeah, it looks legit, the 1895 is a common date, so that's not one that would typically be counterfeited (like the 1877, which is a key date and can be quite expensive). It's nice to find a little Indian in the wild. On the obverse, see the headdress "ribbon" that hangs down her neck? It has what is called "full diamonds" because all four of the diamond pattern is clearly visible. This is important in grading and also indicates it has strong strike. It's a shame there are some issues on the reverse, which would probably keep it from getting an AU grade (although the obverse might be AU-50). I would put it at XF-45 (a XF-40 coin will have the lower hair curl clearly separated from the ribbon end and a XF-45 will have full diamond detail). Again, it's awesome to find a nice IHC in circulation. Edited by batboy 02/21/2017 12:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff
bandsdean Pillar of the Community United States 2125 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 4:27 pm I like it at XF-45 details. I'd call the obverse AU-50 with a weak strike reverse and rim damage. Roll find? Most excellent! Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 4:39 pm I like the concave/convex theory. Report this Post to the Staff
ter215 Valued Member United States 230 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 5:35 pm thanks everyone on the grades......yea no banks were open & I had to have some rolls so my daughter got some from a gas station & a few stores that were open and bam, this came out of one. what a surprise....it does lay flat on both sides...also got some wheats, .little tip, I try as much as possible to go to these little stores for rolls because people sometimes pay with them and you find some good stuff, ya never know.....cheers , thanks again. Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36826 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 6:01 pm I don't like anything about this one. Raised bumps on some lettering, mushy edge denticles, pits on the 9. Guess I'll be contrary and say this one came from a Chinese Mint. Report this Post to the Staff
smoke1439 Valued Member United States 397 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 8:00 pm I'm an amateur but I want to agree with IGE just don't look right. But if the coin graded straight XF no dings it's a 5 to 10 dollar coin. Why would they counterfeit it? Guess my safe bet is to buy slabs only. Anyway great find ter215, hope it's real. Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8517 Posts	Posted 02/21/2017 8:12 pm Pretty sure it's real. I can't find a match on the no no site but they have plenty at $1.15 Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Edited by 52Raymo 02/21/2017 8:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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