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slickbb6 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 04:25 am Pictures say it all... is this what a Retained Cud is? since there is a slight shift/displacement of the 2 pieces of die? Not too familiar with these yet either. Unfortunately the coins condition is no good.. it came from one of those companies that prepackage coins into display packs.... like the kind your grandmother buys off the TV or a catalog and gives them to you for xmas! lol..we all know what I'm talking about right? Well anyway this one I found in a "wartime penny" pack that had like 5 of them in it. I'm still not sure what they do/put on these steelies, but whatever they put on them really is annoying, and I really wish there was a safe/easy way to remove their crap to make the coins look super polished/shiny... or NOT original to those like us.... Report this Post to the Staff

Fuzzy317 Moderator United States 14463 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 04:31 am I think it looks more like a small local die crack. Report this Post to the Staff
slickbb6 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 05:08 am but am I the only one that thinks its definitely not inline with the rest of the design anymore? as in the piece has shifted slightly from where it was before the break took place? (assuming one did)? I thought that was the "telling" sign of there being a break, versus just being a crack? I dunno, you could be right too. I guess thats why I post all my coin related questions here if I have any doubt! Edited by slickbb6 03/03/2017 05:09 am Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 05:16 am Retained Cud (displaced) sounds right. Check Cuds on coins web site. It is shiny because it looks like it was most likely re-plated.Looks nice. John1 Edited by John1 03/03/2017 05:17 am Report this Post to the Staff
slickbb6 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 05:16 am here, does this help maybe to see what I'm talking about.. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 05:18 am Second pic shows it best. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
slickbb6 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 05:18 am Thanks for the reply John! At least I know I'm not the only one that can see what I'm seeing! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 1:11 pm The replating pretty much ruined it for a collector. It would have been worth more left alone. The steel cents were plated with zinc. When they shine like that, they scream altered coin! Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 1:24 pm It does look like there is a slight vertical displacement so yes it is a Retained Cud. Report this Post to the Staff
Dustin6 Pillar of the Community United States 3516 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 3:52 pm It is a Retained Cud, but sadly little to no value because of the alteration Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 4:40 pm That is certainly a Retained Cud, but I didn't check to see if it is listed or not. However, it certainly does have value. I sell a fair number of Cuds and while there is a premium for better quality coins, it is my opinion that it is the quality and rarity of the Cud itself that drives the price. I would be surprised if that coin went for less than $10 at auction. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 03/03/2017 9:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
slickbb6 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 03/04/2017 1:14 pm Thanks all for the replies, I didnt expect it to have much value, but at the very least I can now say I found an actual real deal Retained Cud error! Not to mention I can say I own one too and paid only a penny for it! Lol. I figured it was already ruined for most collectors since it was plated, but I did not find it listed on that one cudsoncoins site. But yes, there is also vertical displacement as well, I took another few pics that show it off very well, zinc plated or not, it's still a pretty piece to look at IMO. I'll see if I can upload those pics today. nd Report this Post to the Staff
slickbb6 New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 03/04/2017 1:21 pm Nice Vertical displacement.. Report this Post to the Staff
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