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 Posted 03/16/2017  6:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I came across this listing on ebay and wanted get some opinions on it. Actually I stupidly already put a bid ($130 CAD) on it and the seller has excepted it!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canada-1-Do...refresh=true

Does this seem like a genuine coin? and if so what would you grade it?

As can be seen in one of the images the coin weighs 23.29 g. And a genuine coin weighs 23.33 g and that's a difference of 0.04 grams.

Thanks
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03/16/2017 6:21 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2017  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know the Weight Tolerances but a difference of 0.04 is tiny and is still be within tolerance.

The surfaces concern me more. The Mint only chromed the dies in 1940, so anything before that would have a matte appearance.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller does not accept returns which I did not notice earlier and that's not a good sign. I have not paid for it yet though. And if it is a fake then I can report it to ebay.
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03/16/2017 6:56 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2017  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redzapsid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The link indicates the coin has been sold. Do you have any images to show us?
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 Posted 03/16/2017  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I don't have possession of the coin. I had just put in a bid a few minutes ago and the seller accepted it. I have not paid for the coin yet.

The coin for listed for $188 and I put in a bid for $130 and it was accepted.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics are still on the listing. That coins is way too good to be true IMO.

Compare it to this MS-67....

http://www.icollector.com/Canada-Si...-67_i5434102
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03/16/2017 7:22 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2017  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
refuse to pay is what i'd do, tell the seller you have figured out it is HARSHLY CLEANED, I mean like this thing is polished to death. sorry to say
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your input everyone. I'm glad I checked before paying. I will wait to hear some more opinions but I am definitely leaning towards not paying at this moment.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has been cleaned, as said above, and there are lots of dings on all the higher design areas. It is the patina/luster that worries me .. it's not natural at all.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you put about $190 Canadian on that coin...for that amount of money or a bit more you could get yourself a gorgeous original example in MS-64 or MS-65(on a good day).

if you're stills serious about getting yourself an example of this beautiful design, i'll keep an eye out for examples worth your money.
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I appreciate it. I actually bid $130 as that was my maximum.
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03/16/2017 8:27 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2017  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$130 USD I think..the final price in Canadian dollars was $188
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My bid was $130 CAD. The seller's original asking price was $188 CAD.

In any case, $130 USD would have been $173 CAD.

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I have tracked reputable graded silver dollars for the last three years. With shipping, MS64 1935s have averaged $105 Canadian. I am always hesitant to bid from dealers that have no returns.
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 Posted 03/16/2017  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trimble to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In a conversation with an ebay rep. I was told I'd be more successful if I accepted returns. I asked her why allow returns when eBays policy is to allow a buyer to return the item regardless of what I have checked off in the listing. Long story short, she said it is basically irrelevant if I accept returns or not...the point being ebay does and by default so do I. :)
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 Posted 03/16/2017  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinhistory to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was able to cancel my order successfully. Thanks everyone.
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