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Got both of these 2015 South Carolina quarters in change at different times they are twins . Still have trouble identifying the correct term for these are they Cuds die chips or inner die breaks . They are not listed on Cuds on coins . Any help appreciated .    
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Tell me the differences between a Cud,die chip and IDB. John1 
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From what I know a Cud has to be a certain size to be considered a Cud and along the rim of a coin an inner die break is a chip of a certain size and a chip is a piece of a die that has been chipped out but for me when I go to cuss on coins the way they have things listed confuses me .
Edited by Potbellypub 03/26/2017 3:41 pm
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Quote: when I go to cuss on coins I do that when I drop one.
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 nss-52 you can thank autocorrect for that one.
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An IDB does have to a certain size though to qualify. From Cuds On Coins website dictionary "Any void encompassing an area of 4 square millimeters or more qualifies as an interior die break. Any void that covers less than 1 square millimeter is a die chip. In between is a gray area." If it were large enough to be an IDB it would be listed on this page. http://cuds-on-coins.com/interior-d...rse-quarter/
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It's not listed but it does appear to be of a similar size to some of those that are shown in early stages.
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That's what I see as well spruette. That's why it gets confusing, I guess I'm stuck in that grey area. They list several as Cuds on the state quartes that are the same size or smaller than these . Look at the one on the Idaho quarter .
Edited by Potbellypub 03/26/2017 5:17 pm
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Did you email JC Stevens about yours?
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No I wanted to get some opinions before doing that .
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Well, I would email him with a link to this post and let him decide. Also, not a Cud an IDB or die chip. No matter what there is still a break in the die. On the Idaho quarter JC made a special comment for this one. "Though rather a small die break, it is in an interesting spot and makes the Peregrine Falcon's eye pop out"
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Call it what you will,but I call it a die chip. John1 
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 Potbellypub -- are there any other similarities that make you think that these coins came from the same die? I'm wondering if it isn't just a design weakness.
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A Cud is a breaking away from the edge of a die:  These leave a weakness on the opposite side of the coin:  Note the weakness on the 6:00 area on the reverse? The missing die area does not have resistance on that area, so the devices do not form on the coin because of the missing metal on the opposite die. Leaving it not formed. Chips and internal die breaks do not affect the opposite side of the coin.
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I haven't looked any farther into it yet buddy I saw both chips have exactly the same profile and didn't go any farther I guess I should try and find markers . I'll do that when I get home . Coincents I sent an email waiting to hear back. John that's what I thought but when I looked on coc it changed my mind. Thanks coop so a Cud is only on the edge.
Edited by Potbellypub 03/26/2017 6:28 pm
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There are two kinds of Cud's,a rim Cud where it is only on the rim and a regular Cud where it starts on the rim and goes into the fields of the coin. Cud's always include the rim. John1 
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