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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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Here is what somebody tried to pass to a client of mine:   This is a dangerous copy, which is not easy to detect on a photograph, probably made of good silver, but still sloppy for the eye of a professional. |
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 United States
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@coinworltv, as many of us are still learning, coul you please point to some attributes which are questionable on this piece? I see some doubling on the letters, but this is very common of coins from this period I think. Thx!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
 Austria
566 Posts |
I am sorry, but I can not do that here.
This website is accessible also by the deceivers, who have struck this piece.
Putting the details out would only help them to make a better forgery.
I think, that I am giving already a good service to the public by publishing these pictures.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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With these types its always about the THIRD SIDE - the edge - is it 424 years old?
John Lorenzo
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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@colonialjohn - I wish it would be that easy, but the bad news is: there are mint state coins without any edge circulation, which are genuine and that old.
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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Here is an example. This is a Hungarian 1636 dated thaler, which is certified by PCGS as MS63 and which does not show any circulation, apart of the die-cleaning marks (so-called VAMs), which does not count as such:  A stunning coin, a certified original, almost 400 years old, yet no circulation. |
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United States
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@CWTV, ok yes I understand that you don't want to make the counterfeiter's job any easier.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Even so - but even with UNC who would buy at this level other than from a top dealer or auction house. So if even fake you have a return policy. I see your point however and I have seen some really good fakes with proper weight. Alloys are generally Fe/Ni and German Silver (Cu/Zn/Ni) but when using real silver and in UNC - its impossible almost from a photograph. Too bad you are in Austria I would LOVE to take one of these into the laboratory and tear it apart (i.e., figuratively speaking - of course - LOL).
JPL
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