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Help Needed With Identifying A Japanese/Korean Coin

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 Posted 04/13/2017  11:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Me2u99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone
I was hoping somebody could identify this coin for me please thanks in advance

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 Posted 04/13/2017  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this one coin? The last picture shows it is 1 whan from Korea with the date of 1893, whereas the last shows a 5 yang coin from Korea that should be dated 1892. If both sides are of the same coin, I would think it is a counterfiet.

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 Posted 04/13/2017  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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First off, I'm calling it a fake. 1) in Korean, it's spelled "HWAN" not WHAN, 2) there is no 1 hwan denomination, period. 3) your fake is patterned after the lesser "Chon" denom like this:

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 Posted 04/13/2017  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Me2u99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, thank you for your responses. To answer your question of is it 1 coin? Yes, the two photos are front and back so presumably a fake as suggested too #128532; But explains the lack of information on the internet. Thanks guys
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 Posted 04/13/2017  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is or was a 1 WHAN coin dated 502 (1893), and spelled "WHAN", so one side of this coin looks like KM#1115 which is typical of fakes coming out of China and confusing many as they find their way into new hands.
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 Posted 04/13/2017  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Me2u99, I agree with Crazyb0 and Albert, but I wonder if you could also check to see if your piece is attracted to a magnet? It shouldn't be (and many, but not all, fakes are). The black spotting on your first pic might be corrosion of a steel core poking through the plating.
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 Posted 04/13/2017  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lembafc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is so so fake. I collect Korean coins and live in Korea. There is no reason to test this on a magnet. Let me point out a few things. The back of your coin says 5 yang in Hanja characters, but the front of the coin says 1 Whan.

Secondly, Crazyb0 is incorrect with his first two points:

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First off, I'm calling it a fake. 1) in Korean, it's spelled "HWAN" not WHAN, 2) there is no 1 hwan denomination, period


The true 1 Whan coin IS spelled Whan. And secondly there technically is a 1 Hwan demomination, but its a pink bill, not a coin. The true 1 WHAN coin is rediculously expensive and is a big target for fake coin makers.

Third, on the front of the coin, in Korean it say "dat (short for da seot "5" in Korean) nyang (ryang)" which infers a 5 Yang coin, but the bottom says 1 Whan.

This is a fake on so many levels including the font, the spacing of the WHAN characters, and well... basically everything. This would be like buying a 100 Bill but in writting it says One Dollar.

Send it back to the seller. There are loads of these on ebay that are selling like hotcakes and there is nothing we can do to stop it. Best rule of thumb: Is it a Korean coin? Yes? Does it come from China? Yes? Its fake.

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 Posted 04/13/2017  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lembafc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Crazyb0, you are legit crazy :)

I wasn't jabbing at you, just making sure the fella has the right information.

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 Posted 04/14/2017  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a (Not Allowed) seller in China that makes replicas of the Korean 1 WHAN coin. The one I have isn't attracted to a common magnet, but if you approach a suspended super magnet with the coin, it will pull the magnet towards it. The magnetic attraction is very weak.
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 Posted 04/14/2017  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Me2u99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everyone, thank you so much for your responses luckily no money has changed hands for the coin as it was given to me among others in an old tin that was found. And would never try sell them as the real thing if they were not. Thanks again guys I really appreciate it.
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 Posted 04/15/2017  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an early generation fantasy nonsense mule that appeared in the early 2000s. Mind you, a genuine 1893 1 hwan is worth easily in the 5 figure mark as the survival rate is estimated to be at just 77 - the rest melted down. A genuine 1892 5 yang is easily in the 4 figure mark.

These days super counterfeits have appeared with the right weight. The only thing that you can tell apart is their luster.
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