11 Weeks Of Coins Of The Crusader States - Page 3

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Coconutjoe Pillar of the Community United States 1475 Posts	Posted 06/18/2017 3:29 pm Very informative and interesting thread Spence. European history was one of my favorite subjects and I had to refresh my memory on some of the places & terms. Since I don't have any coins in this period, I enjoy looking at your postings and history behind them. Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 06/18/2017 4:09 pm Enjoyed today's update, Dave. Thanks for all the work you are putting into this. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 06/18/2017 6:15 pm Thanks CJ and Bob! Clearly, I don't have the depth of knowledge (as I do, for example, on the early dated coins of Europe), but it has been fun learning as I go! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 06/24/2017 01:02 am Here we are at the final week of the Coins of the Crusader States thread. I'm hopeful that as folks discover the thread or add to their collection, this will be a good resource. Please feel free to add your own coins here, with as much attribution information as you have. I'll try to monitor it and help with attributions as I can. The section in CCS devoted to the coins of the Knights of Rhodes was added by Allen Berman. According to him, this addendum is in response to the ubiquitous request to "include Rhodes". In this section, Allen provides some history: Quote: The Order of the Knights Hospitallers of St. John of Jerusalem was an outgrowth of the Hospital itself, founded to help pilgrims in the Holy Land. In the early 1100s the order became militarized. In the 1290s they were forced to flee when the Kingdom of Jerusalem collapsed. The order managed to conquer the island of Rhodes in 1310 and made it their home. In 1523 they were forced off the island by the Ottoman Turks. Emperor Charles V gave them Malta as a feudal fief in 1530 in exchange for one hawk or falcon per year. The retained it until 1798. Thus today they are popularly called the Knights of Malta. Berman notes that the inscriptions on these coins tend to be quite variable, perhaps even more than other regions of Medieval Europe. Several rulers issued coins, including: Fulk of Fillaret (1307-1319 AD) Helion of Villeneuve (1319-1346 AD) Anonymous (1319-1360 AD) Dieudonne of Gozo (1346-1353 AD) Peter of Corneillian (1354-1355 AD) Roger of Pins (1355-1365 AD) Anonymous (ca. 1365-1476 AD) Raymond Berenger (1365-1374 AD) Robert of Juilly (1374-1376 AD) Juan Fernandez of Heredia (1376-1396 AD) Philibert of Naillac (1396-1421 AD) Anonymous (1400s) Antonio Fluviano (1421-1437 AD) John of Lastic (1437-1454 AD) Jacques de Milly (1454-1461 AD) Peter-Raymond Zacosta (1461-1467 AD) John Baptist Orsini (1467-1476 AD) Peter of Abusson (1476-1503 AD) Emeric of Amboise (1503-1512 AD) Guy of Blanchefort (1512-1513 AD) Fabricus of Carretto (1513-1521 AD) Philip Villiers de l'Isle Adam (1521-1534 AD) There are a total of 65 different varieties in this section of CCS. Most of the coins of the Knights of Rhodes are fairly uncommon and pricy when you do find them. I do see several for sale on vcoins now in the range of $300-$700. Sadly, I haven't pulled the trigger on any of these yet so have nothing from my collection to post. At the risk of being a little salesy, if you are interested in the Knights of Rhodes or any other series of Crusader coins, I would reach out to Allen Berman via his website. So far, I have only purchased numismatic literature from him, but I have been treated very fairly by him. Also, if you think that you have found a new variety of Crusader coinage, I would encourage you to contact him (of course, after posting it here on CCF). "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 06/24/2017 2:35 pm Great work, Dave. I've been enjoying the ride. For those who may want to peruse some Knights of Rhodes coins, they get about 12 pages of coverage, starting on page 200, in the "Coins of the Crusaders": http://www.numismatas.com/Forum/Pdf...rusaders.pdf Edited by Kamnaskires 06/24/2017 2:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 06/24/2017 5:00 pm Wow Bob that is a great reference! Thanks for pointing us to it. I really like how prices realized are included. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 06/24/2017 5:37 pm Quote: ...that is a great reference! Thanks for pointing us to it. Sure, Dave. I had mentioned it on page one of this thread too, as well as in a post last year. CCS is available online for free too...Ron had posted the link in a another thread last year: https://vk.com/doc145099063_3804910...e38d0ba38ce9 Edited by Kamnaskires 06/24/2017 5:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 06/25/2017 01:27 am Quote: I had mentioned it on page one of this thread too, as well as in a post last year. How many times do you have to tell your students something before it finally sinks in? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 08/05/2017 2:13 pm Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I recently acquired this Billon Denier from the Kingdom of Jerusalem. It was minted for Baldwin III somewhere between 1143 and 1163 AD. The attribution is CCS #10. I hope others will free to update this thread with their new acquisitions too! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 08/05/2017 2:40 pm This next coin, also from the Kingdom of Jerusalem, provides a nice contrast to the first one that I just posted. Both were minted in the same place at roughly the same time (1143-1163 AD). Whereas the circles of pellets are large and the overall fabric is a bit rough on that first coin, the opposite is true with this one (smaller pellets and smoother design elements). The attribution for this coin is CCS #18. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 08/05/2017 6:56 pm Great additions, Dave. Good to see the thread updated. And, yes, an interesting contrast between these two Baldwin III's. Thanks for sharing. Report this Post to the Staff
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