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Chinese Silver Coins. Seems Legitimate. Bought In China

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 Posted 04/23/2017  09:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rekinek999 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
I just got back from China. On the very small market I managed to buy 3 coins that seemed very legitimate.
They weight around 27g each and are non magnetic. I would appreciate if someone could tell me how to check if they are really silver.

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 Posted 04/23/2017  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that is the key word.. seemed..
most likely fakes..i know little about asian coins, but they do exhibit the fake patina, that is associated with their fakes.
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 Posted 04/23/2017  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Justinokay to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coins are fake.
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 Posted 04/23/2017  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ask yourself this question: "Why do all three coins have the same type and color of toning?
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 Posted 04/23/2017  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add otto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good point, westernsky. They look a lot like what I see from Chinese sellers on e-bay, in terms of color and patina. Mass- produced forgeries flooding the market.
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 Posted 04/23/2017  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fske....dont fool yourself
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 Posted 04/23/2017  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would appreciate if someone could tell me how to check if they are really silver.


Supposing you have a digital scale that weighs out to a hundredth of a gram (such are relatively cheap and available), you should be able to make a general determination as to their specific gravity.

See: http://www.attilacoins.com/Calculat...ity_coin.asp

Colligo ergo sum
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04/23/2017 12:51 pm
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The edge and its modern look and raised dots under a magnifier in the fields illustrating their cast die transfer process. Although the most common alloys are Fe/Ni, German Nickel and sometimes debased silver they do make them many times to regal weight, apply artificial toning and simulate worn edges as in a bin roller. In my new book Forgotten Coins I do an A-Z attribution on Chinese Forgeries. Yes ... they have that patina look from these types of alloys mentioned here. DULL. Faked toning. Modern Edges - raised field dots.

JPL
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I 100% guarantee you that those coins are not genuine!

No doubt whatsoever. I am certain. A cow can turn into a horse at will before these are genuine.
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Thanks very much, you have all been very helpful
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 Posted 04/23/2017  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coins are obvious fakes- but that was not your original question.
You want to know how to check if they are silver.
I would suggest you search online for Chinese Silver Testing or just ordinary home tests that can be done to check for silver.
I think there may be 14 or more or less helpful hints on how to check for coin silver. Some of these are videos and some sources just have a list of testing methods.
I'll give you some tips on what I think:
Diamagnetic=no
Bleach spot= probably no
Ice melt= fail
Sliding magnet= fail
Suspended magnet=fail
Density= 7 or 8 but no way possible to be 10
Visual= multiple devices and details all around coins will be wrong.
Ping test= if they do ping the pitch will be too high or too low or too short duration.
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to the forum!

China, meaning...Hong Kong perhaps?

Ooooooouu...velly, velly, blad!
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A cow can turn into a horse at will before these are genuine.


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