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1981 Struck Through A Split Planchet

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Title updated.

The coins weighs 2.79 grams, normal weight for a 1981 planchet. Although I cannot image it, the obverse side does have a ghost of Elizabeth II.

Obverse (anvil die) - and I hate the big carbon spot, but oh well:

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Reverse (hammer die):

1981-Struck-Through-A-Split-Planchet

Rim (collar die):

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Don't know "official" name but I would call I an imbedded die cap, one piece being retained on the original planchet...? Collar broken too? Not sure of that but rev rim has extended, possibly from planchets held on cap..?
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coin was struck while there was a split planchet in the chamber as well?
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full strike through ...cloth?
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It looks like a struck-through capped die. I guess the difference from US cents is the obverse being the anvil die?

The cent was not ejected and remained on the (obverse) anvil die for several more strikes until it did actually transfer a ghost image of Elizabeth II on the coin.

The reverse shows a clean strike, albeit off-center and tilted.

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Definitely struck through a split planchet. Finning on reverse caused by excessive pressure from the two planchets. Evidence of striations from split planchet noted on obverse die.

Noted below is another example of the error type I have. The split planchet that was involved with my coin was significantly striated. Ghost image od queen noted on third image.

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Love the finning on your cent SPP.
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thedollarman is a fast learner... nice to see another one Zimmy!! Now the hard part, I would love to find the piece that was struck through...
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They would make nice mated pairs SPP. Thanks for sharing.
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thank you.. a lot of it is thanks to you and our other members here
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I would love to find the piece that was struck through...
Just curious - how likely is it that it was rejected at the mint and never circulated? There is "some" QC, right?
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It would be very likely since our coins were of the right weight and specifications while the split cent would have been open to rejection due to weight and thickness issues.
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Here is an example of what that split planchet would look like. Not the match SPP is looking for though...

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Not the match SPP is looking for though...


I did say that in Ben Kenobi's voice...

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SPP...what to you call the split planchet that your coin was struck through?

And is your title the proper designation for your coin? Could it be called a brockage without there being a die cap involved?

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SPP...what to you call the split planchet that your coin was struck through?


Not quite sure I understand your question... it would be a half of a planchet that was split. Whether it was split before it was struck or not, it really does not matter since the blank planchet that struck my coin was placed on top of it (split side was up).


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Yes, it is.


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Could it be called a brockage without there being a die cap involved?


A brockage can be created with a previously struck loose coin sitting in the striking chamber. That is what you often see with indent strikes that have partial brockages. To be a cap, it has to stick to the die...
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