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As usual looking for thoughts on grade and anything else.

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Very pretty Barber half, blast white would make me feel it has been dipped, with minimal abrasions and some slight flatness. The dip makes it appears MS to me but I would say AU 58.
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Sure looks like it was dipped . But in a good way . MS-65.
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My thoughts are that I'm very jealous.
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I'm at an easy 64 maybe a 65. Agree it has been dipped but in the right way.
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I'll say 65, gorgeous, and congrats.
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should make MS65. conservatively 64
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Plenty of luster, I'd say MS-65.
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I am thinking it looks both dipped and AU-58.
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Yeah, looking at the area below the shield and above the tailfeathers, it looks like a fairly big patch of rub, and the top right portion of the shield looks rubbed too, so probably not UNC.

The color of the shield changes abruptly along a straight line, and the surfaces have a subtly ashen look that suggests it has been dipped to me too. See a few dark and light streaks horizontally in the stars above the eagle.

I am revising to AU details - cleaned.
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Very interesting. Quite a diverse mix of opinions.

The coin is graded Unc-details(cleaning) by PCGS. I have it at m-64 not factoring in cleaning.

Just goes to prove the importance of series specialists. Tough to judge the grade of a coin that has strike issues.
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I'd buy it.

Weakly struck areas will still have luster, while worn areas won't. Once you recognize the difference, you can accurately make the determination.
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It is not Mint State. There is friction on the cheek and possible impaired luster because of the dipping. The dipping may have gone too far. That could result in a drop in grade to AU-53 or 55 or a possible "details grade" if the luster is really impaired.
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