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1798 Draped Bust Dollar

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Hey,

What would be the grade and value for this coin?

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VG Details. Environmental damage and graffiti.
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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VG08 details. Hard to put actual value on details coin but maybe around $900 - $1000?
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Is brownish color accurately shown here?
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Probably VG details ED
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That's the color according to seller.

It's actually in a details free holder. It's straight graded
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VG-10, but I would think Details.
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I could see it making VG10. VG8 sounds better though. Without knowing the variety I'd say $1,000 would be a fair price assuming the eye appeal is better in-hand than these (scans?).
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I'm considering buying it for the low $1000 range. Is it worth it?

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If not that one, this is the other one I'm considering



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I am also looking for a bust $. Although the price may seem attractive, I think the reverse has too many problems. It is tough to find a nice one that shows great detail but I would say to be patient. Below is an example of a VG08 draped bust. Even if you have to pay more, I recommend you get one you really like, otherwise you will always want to get rid of it for another. The coin is the PCGS plate coin for vg08.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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2nd one looks much better. I would hold hold out for better, but you'll have to decide what's right for you. Good luck!
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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What do you think is on the front of the coin, those three lines or something?
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What do you think is on the front of the coin, those three lines or something?


Those look like carbon spots and are an eye magnet for negative eye appeal. I would not consider the second coin because of those spots (lines).

The first coin should not be over $1,000 IMO. That is the top price I would pay for it or keep looking beyond these two pieces.
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I would give more consideration to the second one. It has better eye appeal and some more natural color.

As an aside, I must say that I am astonished at the price of these well worn coins. Back in the 1970s and '80s, you almost never saw a Bust Dollar offered in grades below VF-20. I remember when a dealer pulled out one to offer to one of my coin buddies who was looking for an inexpensive example. The coin was a VG with some issues, and the price was $75.

I believe that you should get on the "Coin Facts" page at look at the many pictures they have there of lower grade Bust Dollars. Not all of these coins are the same. There are ugly ones and attractive ones. You should hold on to your money until you see an example that has a nice look to it. Don't buy the first one that comes along just because it's there. Shopping for coins on the lower end of the scale is the same as looking for higher grade pieces. Coins with the same number grade are not the same on older items like this. Don't be afraid to pay a hundred or two more for something that looks nice without problems. In the long run you will be glad you did.
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