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Question About Copper Melt Ban.

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Wondering why it is legal to melt US silver coins that are out of production, but not copper coins such as the cent (penny).
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I guess generally speaking, the copper cent is the only coin readily available for face value that is worth more in melt value.

The nickel is also illegal to melt (except for War Nickels) but, its melt is less than face.

As far as I know, all other coins can be melted legally.
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Several vigorous discussions about this previously on CCF. Here is one of my favorites:

http://goccf.com/t/70755
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Thanks for the link Spence. That was certainly a great discussion on the topic.

I only wish biggfredd was still here. I've read many older topics he was involved in and would have liked to interact with him.
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In theory, the Mint makes the exact amount of coins needed to fuel the economy. Copper cents still make up 15-25% of the circulation supply, depending on where you live and who has been using Coinstars in your area. If all of those coins disappeared overnight, it would take a heck of a lot of minting (at a loss) to recover those numbers.

Plus, if anybody is going to be melting old coins en masse, you can guarantee the guv'mint will want the monopoly on that gig.
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If all of those coins disappeared overnight, it would take a heck of a lot of minting (at a loss) to recover those numbers.


Good point. I assume that inflation will mean that the production cost deficit will only grow as time goes on until cents are done away with entirely. From a business perspective, it already doesn't make cents.
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I assume that inflation will mean that the production cost deficit will only grow as time goes on until cents are done away with entirely. From a business perspective, it already doesn't make cents.

The cent is going away eventually. It's just a matter of how much money will be wasted before it happens.
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Why?, because the penny is still in circulation, you find up to 12-14 wheats in a $25 box. Melt on copper cents is currently 168% of face, and for Zincolns it's 65%, topped out a over 70% not long ago, at which time their was a bit of talk by some politician of ending the penny.

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I assure you, the non-Zincolns are disappearing.

Some Zincolns take themselves out of circulation (disintegrate).
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But where are they going?
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But where are they going?


I would assume primarily copper-hoarders. It's really just speculation at best currently.
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Thanks for the comments everyone, I believe you've quenched my curiosity regarding the copper melt ban.
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