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Thoughts On This Draped Bust Half Dollar

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Hey,

Considering purchasing this, thoughts in grade and fair price?

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 Posted 05/15/2017  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks very nice except for the mark on the obverse. It is very distracting on an otherwise nice piece.
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 Posted 05/15/2017  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinlover1899 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the scratch does hurt this coin quite badly. What does PCGS grade it?
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VG-10 details (scratched). If you're only planning on owning one of these, I'd wait for a better one.
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That scratch on the obverse is really disappointing because without that, this is a beautiful well circulated coin.

I think that the sharpness technical grade is better than this piece looks. The drapery detail in front of Ms. Liberty's bosom is very sharp. Most 1806 and 1807 Draped Bust Half Dollars have shallow strikes. This piece is no exception. There is probably a VF coin there, but no one is going to say that it's better than Fine, especially given that unfortunate scratch.
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It's actually F12 by PCGS no details; did they miss the boat or is that an adjustment mark? How is it not details graded?
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agree vg dets scratched.
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 Posted 05/15/2017  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jolteon1698 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a different option

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VG8. There are a couple of scratches in an X shape right of the chin. Would prefer one w/o those scratches. Might details-graffiti. Looks like some env damage in left side of reverse.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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NGC said F-15, no details
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There are plenty of these in those grade ranges. I would never be able to live with the first with the scratch or the second with the graffiti. Regardless of a TPG designation.
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The reason I'm considering these coins is I'm getting a good deal on them.

What do you think fair prices would be on both of these given the grades by TPG and what the coin seems like?
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It's a good deal for a reason. Once you own them and see them in hand, you realize why it was so. Be patient with that tax return check. You can find better coins that you will enjoy owning. Summer is just around the corner and you can find much better deals then.
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I have seen PCGS net grade a number of early coins, and you have to be careful about that. Just because it has been net graded does not mean that it isn't a problem. If you are only looking for one type piece, you should be more picky.
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I would have said VF20 on the first coin, and F12 on the second. As pointed out, both have issues (a scratch and rough area on the first, graffiti on the second.)

Many bust dollar collectors (apart from type coin buyers) are VERY picky and will not settle for problem coins at any price. The result is that the dedicated collectors of the series buy up all of the problem free coins, leaving the problem coins for the type-coin buyers who are content with owning a single example.

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What you all are saying makes sense, I'm going to go to a different seller.

These are some more I saw, what issues do you all note?

I may have to settle for a lower grade coin
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