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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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61 leaning towards not proof
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
05/27/2017 9:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yeah, it's a nice coin and looks low MS. 61 or 62.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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The surfaces do not look original. This could go two different ways in the eyes of the tpgs.
1: They grade it straight but drop the grade down a point or two.
2: Or grade it AU details.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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For me, it looks like about AU55 (rub on cheek), possibly AU details.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It looks AU details to me as well.
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like definite wear on the right leg, breast plate, and cheek, and lots of surface marks. I'd say AU-53, possibly straight grade.
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Pillar of the Community
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It is definitely AU. The surfaces just look odd, as in they look both cleaned and not cleaned at the same time. There are a lot of scuffs and scratches, and the halos around the devices suggest an overdipping. I would pass, and would only consider it as a cheap hole filler if it looks like the photos.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU-58, agree the obverse surfaces look messed with in some way.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The more I look at it,
can it be PROOF Details?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This coin could be a circulated and cleaned Proof. I would have to see it in person to make that call. It is is a Proof, almost all of the Proof surface as been destroyed, especially on the reverse.
At any rate it has a rub on the obverse devices and many marks in the field. As such can't be called "as struck" and there rate a 60 grade be it Mint state or Proof.
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United States
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Baggy AU. Wear = AU-58 Marks = AU-50 So, AU-53 that I'll price near Uncirculated and sleep like a baby after a trip to the bank. LOL.
How did Proof get into this thread?
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Posted 05/27/2017 10:27 pm
